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Re:Hawaii moves to ban sale of sunscreens with coral-harming... by Twirrim on Thursday July 05, 2018 @01:02AM (#17460977)
A third point against "organic" is that with foreign imports it only means the seller told the import company it was "organic". So foreign food producers just say their stuff is "organically grown", even if it was smothered in pesticides, pumped full of steroids etc, because then they get to claim a premium too.

Lack of consistent standards, or authority to enforce mean it's essentially a rubber stamp.

Re:Hawaii moves to ban sale of sunscreens with coral-harming... by dragonwriter on Thursday July 05, 2018 @01:45AM (#17461105)
> So foreign food producers just say their stuff is "organically grown", even if it was smothered in pesticides

Organically grown products are usually smothered in pesticides, since “organic” doesn't prohibit pesticides, just the more targeted and effective ones, forcing quantity to make up for quality.

Re:Hawaii moves to ban sale of sunscreens with coral-harming... by dsfdsfsd423423 on Thursday July 05, 2018 @05:35AM (#17461932)
They are now growing potatoes in the Egyptian desert, to fill demand for organic potatoes in Germany. Organic is not automatically better for the environment.
Re:Hawaii moves to ban sale of sunscreens with coral-harming... by coin on Thursday July 05, 2018 @01:36AM (#17461079)
Organic uses pesticides