News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by userbinator on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @10:07PM (#17460466)
While I agree with you in principle (and have used a very similar setup for many years), I don't think HN is pro-DRM/IP enough to worry.

At some point YouTube is going to require an EME module to play even "free" videos.

...which will be cracked within days if not hours.

Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by majewsky on Thursday July 05, 2018 @03:59AM (#17461594)
> which will be cracked within days if not hours.

Netflix requires an EME module since quite some time, and I'm not aware of any successful cracks.

Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by deno on Thursday July 05, 2018 @04:36AM (#17461730)
All Netflix-exclusive shows are available up to 4K on torrent networks:

https://thepiratebay.org/search/house%20of%20cards%202160p/0...

https://thepiratebay.org/search/orange%20is%20the%20new%20bl...

https://1337x.to/search/ozark+2160p/1/

What’s left to steal?

Meanwhile the majority of Netflix customers is limited to 720p video like it’s 2001. [1]

[1] https://help.netflix.com/en/node/55763

Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by realusername on Thursday July 05, 2018 @09:30AM (#17463076)
> Google Chrome up to 720p

  Internet Explorer up to 1080p

  Microsoft Edge up to 4K*

  Mozilla Firefox up to 720p

  Opera up to 720p

  Windows 8 app up to 1080p

  Windows 10 app up to 4K*
(from your link). And people wonder why I still use torrents...
Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by MaxBarraclough on Thursday July 05, 2018 @07:14AM (#17462341)
Depends what we mean by 'crack'.

A few years ago I was surprised to see that Netflix in Chrome on Linux didn't prevent screen-capture. If I recall correctly, On Windows, it won't let you screenshot Netflix - you get a black box instead.

Failing that, it's possible to record high-quality analogue output from, say, a Playstation 3. Failing that, it's always possible to point a camera at a screen.

Piracy of video isn't something that technologies like EME can hope to eliminate entirely, they can only raise the bar. For Netflix, that's acceptable. They compete with BitTorrent piracy and win on convenience.

Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by gsich on Thursday July 05, 2018 @08:09AM (#17462598)
Only Windows with Edge can play 4k. Chrome is 720p.
Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by glenneroo on Thursday July 05, 2018 @08:56AM (#17462860)
Have you tried Netflix on Edge? Maybe it's just anecdotal, but I've tried multiple i7 (3xxx, 5xxx, 7xxx and 8xxx series) and Ryzen 1700/1700x systems (GPU: NVIDIA 960M, 970, 1050, 2 different 1070 TIs) and ALL of them lag horribly while using Edge. Loading Netflix is slow. Selecting a profile takes several seconds. The entire browser locks up. I generally find a show using Firefox, then open Edge and search manually to get my 1080p playback. I'm wondering if it's just a bug but it's been like this on 4 different computers so far. Netflix the App itself is also incredibly laggy on Windows 10, not sure if the issues are somehow related to one another. Am I the only one who has this?
Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by gsich on Thursday July 05, 2018 @05:38PM (#17467055)
>Have you tried Netflix on Edge?

I don't have Netflix

Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by MaxBarraclough on Thursday July 05, 2018 @08:24AM (#17462659)
Fair point.

Apparently it's possible to trick Netflix into 1080P on Chrome, in at least some cases - https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/12/watch-netflix-in-1080p-on-...

Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by mijamo on Thursday July 05, 2018 @04:40AM (#17461745)
Well Netflix's content is pirated just as much as any other content, so I guess it was cracked in some way?
Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by turbo_fart_box on Thursday July 05, 2018 @09:33AM (#17463105)
You can strip HDCP from HDMI 2.2 [0] and then just capture that stream. Very easy to do. Anything that can be seen on your screen can be captured and shared.

0. https://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Splitter-Supports-Pass-through-D...

Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by gsich on Thursday July 05, 2018 @02:06PM (#17465401)
Where does it say "strip"?

>-Support HDR & HDCP 2.2 Pass-through

Which is not stripping away anything.

Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by userbinator on Thursday July 05, 2018 @08:38PM (#17468074)
Like flashlight apps containing hidden tethering proxies[1], these products would quickly be taken down if they advertised their real functionality.

Those who remember the old analogue "video stabilisers" used for stripping Macrovision copy protection signals will find this similar.

[1] https://www.wired.com/2010/07/apple-approves-pulls-flashligh...

Re:Youtube-dl: Command-line program to download videos by tekromancr on Thursday July 05, 2018 @06:47PM (#17467512)
It is passthrough, but it just so happens that the hdcp protection doesn't quite make it through on many of these devices.