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Re:Why standard Indonesian is not spoken throughout Indonesia by zafiro17 on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @01:21PM (#17458371)
In Jakarta the people speak Bahasa and Javanese equally. People who have come in from other areas of the country speak their own language plus Bahasa; the Javanese who were born there make Javanese the most common language.

Malay and Bahasa are 90% the same language. Bahasa is considered a traders' language, much like Swahili - a lingua franca that allowed commerce to happen for centuries.

Source: studied bahasa for two years and used to live on Java - amazing, complex place.

Re:Why standard Indonesian is not spoken throughout Indonesia by perlancar3 on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @01:34PM (#17458452)
I wouldn't quite say "equally". Jakarta is a melting pot and the most significant portion of the population there is of Javanese descent. But many many people who are of Javanese descent don't even speak Javanese, especially if they were born in Jakarta or in the western part of Java.
Re:Why standard Indonesian is not spoken throughout Indonesia by curtis on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @02:18PM (#17458689)
It seems likely to me that people who are speaking Indonesian as a first language (e.g. Jakartans) have a substantially larger vocabulary than those that are speaking it as a second language (e.g. Yogyakartans). I would presume so, but that makes me wonder what the source of that larger vocabulary -- Malay? Javanese? English? Other languages native to the Indonesian archipelago? All of the above?
Re:Why standard Indonesian is not spoken throughout Indonesia by bodas on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @03:43PM (#17459084)
> It seems likely to me that people who are speaking Indonesian as a first language (e.g. Jakartans) have a substantially larger vocabulary than those that are speaking it as a second language (e.g. Yogyakartans).

They are speaking Indonesian as a second native language, they will acquire Javanese and Indonesian at the same time but use Javanese in conversation and Indonesian when consuming TV, books and in school. So their grasp of formal Indonesian is going to depend mostly on education level.

As for colloquial Indonesian, due to the internet new colloquialisms spread much more rapidly to other parts of Indonesia. So it probably depends on how old said Yogyakartan is.