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Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by kaybe on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @10:11AM (#17457351)
Meanwhile, can Microsoft please add an option to Windows10 that says 'this computer is only connected to an internal on-board network and satellite connection, please never try to update'? That was an expensive mistake as well.

I really wish people had started to migrate away from Windows earlier, but now all the essential stuff is written for it and well-tested, so any choice is hard.

Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by vezycash on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @12:14PM (#17458007)
Google how to disable windows update service permanently from the computer management console.

You'll also need the ffg paid software.

1. Du Meter

2. NetLimiter &/OR Glasswire

DU Meter

After installing it, right-click taskbar and activate the du-meter toolbar. It'll will show you upload/download speed at all times.

In other words, if you're online, doing absolutely nothing. Yet, your Internet's doing 1MB/s+, you get suspicious.

NetLimiter/Glasswire

Once you see suspicious internet activity, you open any of these two. It'll allow you to block the offending program. Glasswire has a nice UI but all it does is block or unblock.

Blocking windows processes - esp svchost might cut off your internet so NetLimiter is important. Allows you to rate limit the process. Basically, windows update temporarily stops trying if download speed's 1KB/s or less.

NOTE:

Some spy blocking software for Windows 10 help you to block MS's ad-servers, tracking and windows update. However, this is a cat and mouse game - hence, the above tools are your best bet.

Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by kevindqc on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @10:13AM (#17457357)
I think there is something like that already. Look for "metered connections".
Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by joshvm on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @10:17AM (#17457380)
There is, but Windows 10 will disable this functionality after a month so you have to keep logging in to reset it. We had problems using a remote PC with a 4G dongle - programs like Office kept downloading updates even when Windows update was disabled. Having turned on metering, we didn't even think about it until the bill came through.
Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by yekepa on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @10:38AM (#17457493)
Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by rjsw on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @05:14PM (#17459476)
That must be a new feature. The registry keys are still set on my only Windows 10 machine to make all possible network connections metered.

It won't install the newest update anyway so I'm probably safe.

Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by dspillett on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @11:00AM (#17457607)
This is unfortunately not reliable. The only way to completely stop Windows 10 and certain other recent MS products from updating (for bandwidth cost or not-wanting-to-reboot-right-now reasons) is to not let the machine connect to the Internet at all which probably makes it useless for many situations.

You could try running a server version of Windows instead, but you might find yourself unsupported in other ways (some hardware drivers, some software deliberately refusing to run or accidentally doing so due to using a broken compatibility check) in that case. The license will also cost a chunk more currency.

Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by detaro on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @12:17PM (#17458020)
In the Pro version you also can set it to "always ask before downloading updates", and that has worked reliably for me so far.
Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by dspillett on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @07:46PM (#17460024)
Pro licences here. Can't say as I've found an option like that. Is it relatively new? I've not dug around terably recently. Everything else people have suggested either hasn't worked or did for a while then changed after an update.
Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by detaro on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @07:53PM (#17460046)
Group Policy for Windows Update "configure automatic updates" can be set to "notify for download".
Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by dspillett on Friday July 06, 2018 @08:57AM (#17470990)
I'm pretty sure I've tried that and it reset itself a time later.

Looking again now, there seems to be no such option. I can defer updates for a fixed number of days (with separate settings for quality updates and feature updates), which might be useful if the defer is cancelled by a manual "check and install updates" rather than having to reset the setting to get them to install at a convenient time rather than waiting for them to go in at Windows' will at the end of the defer period.

Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by jacquesm on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @03:56PM (#17459136)
Force connection through a VPN, deny the VPN access to anything microsoft related.
Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by ars on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @02:12PM (#17458658)
I did it by not leaving enough free space on the machine for windows to download anything.

You can make another partition for your actual data if needed.

Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by hnarn on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @11:10AM (#17457663)
The answer for this type of edge case configuration in Windows is usually "use Linux".
Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by kaybe on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @02:05PM (#17458631)
Some people are running Windows XP on that network, since that is what the instrument was certified with, and have less problems. Since my software is tested and does not run in Linux I'd rather say run Windows XP and keep very frequent backups and software ready in case somebody is careless and the network contracts malware. (None of the data is particularly sensitive, so.. )
Re:Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork by happythought on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @07:50PM (#17460038)
GPO: Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Internet Communication Management\Internet Communication settings\turn off access to all windows update feature