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Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by sremani on Sunday July 01, 2018 @04:08PM (#17437295)
The third scenario seems 40% until you realize that 2 million Model 3s per year @ average price of 45K are being sold.

I am not a car market place expert, $45K cars do not usually move in those numbers.

edit: For reference, check the number of cars moved. https://www.statista.com/statistics/276419/best-selling-cars...

Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by njarboe on Sunday July 01, 2018 @04:24PM (#17437371)
If these $45k cars are fully automatic (a big if for sure), then $45k will be a bargain price and would probably capture at least half the new car market.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by freeone3000 on Sunday July 01, 2018 @04:34PM (#17437406)
They're not. They have the same lane keeping and autimatic cruise control as the average $45k car.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by MBCook on Sunday July 01, 2018 @10:57PM (#17439051)
Or what you can get from Honda for around $20-25k.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by DanCarvajal on Sunday July 01, 2018 @05:42PM (#17437782)
Possibly worse given the accidents.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by threeseed on Sunday July 01, 2018 @08:22PM (#17438521)
This is frankly delusional thinking.

(a) Tesla aren't the leaders in the self driving car space. Waymo arguably is, (b) almost all of the car makers have self driving car programs and most importantly (c) why would the traditional car makers just sit back, do nothing and allow Tesla to eat up the entire market ?

Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by yellow_postit on Monday July 02, 2018 @01:18AM (#17439489)
If Tesla can make it work without lidar, and that’s a huge “if”, they have a massive head start in training data. From a conference panel a few years ago that had Tesla, Waymo and some others on stage at the same time, Tesla was getting as much data in a week as Google was in months. That type of training data asymmetry is ripe for blowing past others. Again though that’s all conditioned on not needing lidar and I remain far from convinced their approach works for a true self-driving system.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by mavhc on Monday July 02, 2018 @05:58AM (#17440465)
Waymo's cars are connected to Waymo's servers with, I guess, gigabit ethernet (after they go back to base for the night), Tesla's cars are connected by mobile data, they'd have to pay billions to cell phone networks to get as much data.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by Latteland on Sunday July 01, 2018 @10:32PM (#17438955)
I think Tesla is not the leader, they probably made a crucial mistake in not using the expensive lidar. But they have be far the most cars on the road with early versions of this tech that has worked pretty well in my car for 4 years.