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Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by Karrot_Kream on Friday June 29, 2018 @03:50PM (#17427297)
> You grasped the idea very well. Life in the West gives you a lot of "false idols," way more than just plain income (in)security and social acceptance.

TFA is set in Tokyo, which is decidedly not the West. Yes, you can take your skills and go to a developing nation where you will probably be much more qualified than most of the locals, but that's not the broader question at stake, nor does it really take into account what the lives of locals are like. I have faith that the world will, eventually, be filled with mostly developed nations. These problems increasingly seem to be plaguing all developed nations.

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by baybal2 on Friday June 29, 2018 @04:06PM (#17427450)
>where you will probably be much more qualified than most of the locals

Don't get me wrong, in Russia, you have many times more people with 6 years degrees in the industry than in US. That's a hard fact. And so is China for as long as you consider the part of the workforce born after economic liberalisation in parts of the country where the industry took off.

>not the broader question at stake

Well, I was just trying break the going narrative of "Internet troll" being thrown on every "looser" or basically unpopular person with Internet presence.

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by kbenson on Friday June 29, 2018 @07:07PM (#17428530)
> Don't get me wrong, in Russia, you have many times more people with 6 years degrees in the industry than in US.

I'm confused, what does the comparison of the number of higher education degrees between the US, Russia and China have to do with taking your skills to a "developing nation"? Are China and Russia supposed to be considered developing nations in this comparison?

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by baybal2 on Saturday June 30, 2018 @03:34AM (#17429900)
Education-wise, they aren't.
Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by kbenson on Saturday June 30, 2018 @06:31AM (#17430285)
I, and I assume most people, don't think of Russia as a "developing country" in the common usage at all, at least in the common usage of the term. I see China as a more complex case, but I wouldn't feel comfortable using it as a general example of one because of this same complexity.

As such, your using them as examples or counter examples of developing countries is confusing (at least to me), and I think is misinterpreting the meaning of the original statement.

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by baybal2 on Saturday June 30, 2018 @10:22AM (#17430950)
>As such, your using them as examples or counter examples of developing countries is confusing (at least to me), and I think is misinterpreting the meaning of the original statement.

Indeed. Me coming back to Russia was nowhere near a typical "downshifting" case. If I were to compete with locals on the job market, I wouldn't have lasted long. People who can ace ACM olympics prequalification tests are only passing as junior devs here.