Re:How to Make Everything Ourselves: Open Modular Hardware
by kennywinker on Friday June 29, 2018 @02:57AM
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Pretty sure that’s an economies of scale issue. If the demand for modular was as large as the demand for complete synths, they’d be dirt cheap - but they are essential different products. Though we’ll see how that plays out if behringer ever makes good on their threat to get into modular...
Re:How to Make Everything Ourselves: Open Modular Hardware
by vortico on Friday June 29, 2018 @03:08AM
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I think it has more to do with baseline product overhead. The cost of bringing a single electronic product to market is $50-100/unit + variable amount based on the scale. The solution to make the product cheaper is to offer monolithic functionality in a single unit, with the same baseline overhead. The same is true for assembled "monolithic" bed frames vs. modular aluminum beams, just with different numbers.
Re:How to Make Everything Ourselves: Open Modular Hardware
by RossBencina on Friday June 29, 2018 @04:17AM
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> The cost of bringing a single electronic product to market is $50-100/unit. The solution to make the product cheaper is to offer monolithic functionality in a single unit
Another solution is to reduce the baseline overhead.
Re:How to Make Everything Ourselves: Open Modular Hardware
by vortico on Friday June 29, 2018 @04:59AM
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Can't. People require a particular amount of support, your marketing costs scale with product sold, and international shipping costs can't get any cheaper. The baseline is not much less for Behringer as it is any reputable modular manufacturer. What they do instead is reduce the parts, manufacturing, and R&D/unit cost, but they're still restricted from going below $50-100/unit even if they could magically clone modules.
Re:How to Make Everything Ourselves: Open Modular Hardware
by RossBencina on Friday June 29, 2018 @09:43AM
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The point of this article is "making everything ourselves." What you're describing only applies if the traditional manufacturer/sales channel/consumer paradigm is maintained. I'm proposing to think further outside the box than that.
For an example of what is possible: you can buy Arduino clone hardware on eBay direct from China much cheaper than anything from authorised suppliers.
Any successful "making things ourselves" community (consider Pure Data as an example) is self-supporting and doesn't expect support from manufacturers/creators. Similarly, such a community spreads awareness without marketing investment.
Re:How to Make Everything Ourselves: Open Modular Hardware
by vortico on Friday June 29, 2018 @07:03PM
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You have to buy the aluminum bars, screws, brackets from somewhere. It will always be cheaper for a manufacturer to buy them in bulk at a price much cheaper than you could get them and sell it to you for cheaper than the sum of the parts (at your price).
Re:How to Make Everything Ourselves: Open Modular Hardware
by kennywinker on Friday June 29, 2018 @03:54PM
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> The cost of bringing a single electronic product to market is $50-100/unit + variable amount based on the scale.
that doesn’t seem right... there is an abundance of electronics products priced under $50... are they loosing money on those?
The synthesizer world knows this well, where a $3000 modular synthesizer is required to build a patch for a $300 portable synthesizer, although you gain flexibility with the modular version.