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Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by ghostbrainalpha on Thursday June 28, 2018 @07:15PM (#17421255)
This is going to give away a huge competitive advantage for good marketers.

If I know my political ads are most effective with Women, 45-65, who are Hispanic, and that's where I'm focusing my spend....

Is it fair for the opponent to have that information? If they give that level of detail for political ads, I hope they at least spare startup businesses who are still researching to find their ideal audience.

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by JumpCrisscross on Thursday June 28, 2018 @07:45PM (#17421383)
> Is it fair for the opponent to have that information?

I'm parsing "fair" in the form of: imagine two societies, one where such information is private the other where it's public. Who outperforms?

Would the number of start-ups which cave because an incumbent snipes their marketing outweigh the number who could piggyback on an incumbent's revealed slicing? (The latter, by marketing to the same customers better or noticing who is being left out.) Will consumers see more advertising or less? If more, will they respond to the deluge by defaulting to the incumbent or trying new options more frequently?

I don't know. But we have an opportunity to find out. If this drives innovation, I'd say a case is to be made to open up these data across advertising platforms. Who knows. Maybe it's the tool to pry apart Facebook and Google's stranglehold.

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by rock_hard on Thursday June 28, 2018 @08:12PM (#17421481)
You realize though that at least a Facebook has the same features, right?

In fact FB went much farther in that for example they let you go back 7 YEARS in a pages ad history and not just 7 days like Twitter does

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by JumpCrisscross on Thursday June 28, 2018 @11:05PM (#17422084)
> FB went much farther in that for example they let you go back 7 YEARS in a pages ad history

I am not completely familiar with Facebook's ad platform. Does it really let anyone see, for example, which demographics Procter & Gamble is targeting with a particular Gilette ad? (Or its Gilette brand, generally?)

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by rock_hard on Friday June 29, 2018 @01:25AM (#17422588)
Yep it does. They tell you exactly why you are seeing a ad.

For political ads you can also go to a page and look up all the ad campaigns they are running, how much money was spend, who was target, what the ad creative was, etc

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by JumpCrisscross on Friday June 29, 2018 @01:48AM (#17422659)
> They tell you exactly why you are seeing a ad

Pardon me, I meant that anyone should be able to see who anyone else is targeting. Currently, when Terrible Kale Bar® shows me an ad, I can see it's because I liked a post of my Portland friend's. But I can't look at Terrible Kale Bar®'s page and see a list of whom they're targeting.

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by mygo on Thursday June 28, 2018 @08:27PM (#17421537)
> by marketing to the same customers better or noticing who is being left out.

Noticing who is being left out would be a start-up’s marketing strategy that can be sniped by the incumbent.

I agree with the overall sentiments however.

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by CodeCube on Thursday June 28, 2018 @08:59PM (#17421682)
Yeah, as a consumer, this sentiment isn't gonna get any sympathy from me ... I already despise being "marketed to", which has made me really jaded about content marketing; particularly when I consume it but only realize it's just shilling some product or service after the fact.

All advertising should be (by law, or at least industry standard) clearly marked and disclosed.

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by jdavis703 on Thursday June 28, 2018 @08:52PM (#17421651)
Yes it's fair. In the 2016 presidential election campaigns were using micro-targeted voter suppression campaigns that attempted to get certain demographics to stay home. From a story in The Atlatnic: "The animation will be delivered to certain African American voters through Facebook 'dark posts'—nonpublic posts whose viewership the campaign controls so that, as [campaign digital guru Brad] Parscale puts it, 'only the people we want to see it, see it.'" If the opposing campaigns had this information they could potentially re-deploy resources.

Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/trumps-...

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by hbosch on Thursday June 28, 2018 @08:05PM (#17421461)
In my opinion, not only is it fair but it’s important that all ads — particularly political ads — are transparent in this way. This transparency is a public good for media literacy. Marketing is manipulation and often people don’t notice or are tricked into thinking elsewise.
Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by colordrops on Thursday June 28, 2018 @09:26PM (#17421748)
Perhaps this will make more money for Twitter due to advertisers who buy ads for irrelevant segments to obfuscate their strategy.
Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by jeffreylees on Thursday June 28, 2018 @09:32PM (#17421766)
If your marketing strategy requires depends entirely upon your market not knowing they're being marketed to, or your competitors not knowing who you're marketing to, there's something wrong with the strategy.

It's similar logic in the security industry to the idea of security by obscurity alone.

Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by cm2012 on Thursday June 28, 2018 @07:43PM (#17421374)
FB is also doing the same thing, starting today. Brutal.
Re:Twitter Will Show Who Pays for Ads and How Much They Spend by wpietri on Friday June 29, 2018 @07:52AM (#17423937)
Is it fair to the people being targeted for manipulation to not know why they're being targeted?