Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key... by bhnmmhmd on Thursday June 28, 2018 @06:01AM (#17415503)

I mostly agree with you. But really, who needs +16GB RAM on their laptop?! I think the need for more RAM is correlated with the need for more CPU clock, more powerful graphic card, and a better Motherboard, all of which result in a huge decrease in battery life (which is supposed to be a laptop's main strength over heavy, power-consuming PC).

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Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key... by zero_intp on Thursday June 28, 2018 @07:41AM (#17416013)

I need the RAM. Network modeling, network simulation, dev installations of SDN platforms. This is a developer and programmer forum, right?

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Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key... by scruffyherder on Thursday June 28, 2018 @09:31AM (#17416675)

It's the reason I end up always looking at gaming laptops. I don't really need a GPU at all, it's nice but not needed. However yeah, Cores & RAM that's what I need.

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Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key... by sancha_ on Thursday June 28, 2018 @06:27AM (#17415621)

I was about to buy a new MBP this year but held back because I already have 16GB of RAM and want more, actually need more. I often have the problem that my current MBP runs out of memory and when this happends it costs me like 30 to 60 minutes to get back to the point where I was when it ran out of it. So yeah, there are some of us that need more RAM.

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Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key... by idontpost on Thursday June 28, 2018 @04:40PM (#17420294)

> But really, who needs +16GB RAM on their laptop?!

I need it on whatever machine is my development machine. Clojure REPLs are memory intensive. I'm sitting at 7GB in use right now, mostly thanks to Chrome, even without anything major running.

I could probably squeeze under 16GB if I was aggressive about shutting down server applications (e.g. Apache and MySQL) I'm not using at that moment and only starting them up when I need them, but that's just adding more chores to my workflow.

Having more than 16GB of RAM just means I never need to worry about it. It's one less headache to deal with.

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Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key... by lmm on Thursday June 28, 2018 @09:56AM (#17416862)

As a developer, I need a machine that's powerful enough to develop on; being light and having battery life is a nice-to-have but not essential. If that means I have to buy a bulky gaming laptop rather than a sleek portable one, that's what I'll do. At the moment I can just about manage with 16GB, but it's definitely the limiting factor on my current machine (surface book 2, which is capable of some pretty good gaming).

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Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key... by nomel on Saturday June 30, 2018 @10:18PM (#17433733)

For me, large datasets used for analytics. I don’t want to use a desktop, I want to do this stuff in a coffee shop, and in my hotel. The difference between in-memory and disk based operations is, understandably, very significant.

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Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key... by fnordsensei on Thursday June 28, 2018 @10:23AM (#17417081)

As (mostly) a designer, even I'm pushing RAM usage at times. Some GPU wouldn't hurt either.

yet I don't feel like switching away from Mac is a realistic option for me. There are a ton of apps on which I depend. Can't exactly stick them in a docker image.

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Re:Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Key... by lordfoom on Thursday June 28, 2018 @06:06AM (#17415521)

I would think most developers would like at least 16gb

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