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Re:The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be by coldtea on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @03:41PM (#17411154)
>The first thing I always do on a new laptop (or install) is go into Power Settings and change the Closing Lid action from putting the computer to sleep to just turning off the screen.

Or you can get a Mac laptop, where getting the computer to sleep when you close the lid and start again fast when you open it just works.

Why would you let the laptop keep running, waste battery, risk overheating and endanger any spinning HDs you might have in it, when the lid is closed?

Re:The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be by brazzledazzle on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @10:24PM (#17413598)
You should talk to the last couple MBPs I’ve had. Sometimes they pretend like they’re going to sleep but they actually stay up late and when I pull them out of my bag the next day they have 30% of their battery left or less. Sometimes I’m lucky and the fans will be screaming so I realize before I put it into the bag that it didn’t actually sleep.

You could say it’s my (non-OS) software and you might be right, god only knows how much redundant shit security teams put on there to protect us (read: cover their asses) but why is any software allowed to prevent the laptop from sleeping when I close the lid? It should be assumed it’s going in a bag and should take protective action.

Also, you may want to talk to my laptops about kernel panics on docking or randomly losing window placement for no apparent reason.

I think it’s pretty neat that you’ve had such a bug-free experience but unless you work for Apple and are intimately aware of the frequency or infrequency of these types of issues it might be worth exploring a decrease in snarkiness.

Re:The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be by ScottBurson on Thursday June 28, 2018 @01:15AM (#17414241)
When I had this problem it was because I had Bluetooth on, and the setting "Allow Bluetooth devices to wake this computer" (on the Advanced dialog of the Bluetooth system preferences) was enabled. I turned that off and the problem went away. I think it was being awakened by my phone.
Re:The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be by jasonlotito on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @05:37PM (#17412041)
> Or you can get a Mac laptop, where getting the computer to sleep when you close the lid and start again fast when you open it just works.

Except it doesn't "just work." It sometimes works, sometimes doesn't, and the doesn't work happens often enough that I don't close my laptop. And let's not get started with plugging into external Apple monitors.

Re:The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be by roryisok on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @06:18PM (#17412343)
> Or you can get a Mac laptop, where getting the computer to sleep when you close the lid and start again fast when you open it just works.

With the added compromise of a touch bar instead of function keys. And a horrible typing experience. And a default OS with a recent history of downright laughable security issues.

Re:The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be by james_in_the_uk on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @05:00PM (#17411834)
Or change sleep to hibernate. Noticably slower on my surface pro than sleep on my macbook, but not slow enough to actually cause a problem. We are talking difference between 'instant' (macbook) to a second or so (surface pro).
Re:The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be by garrettdc on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @03:50PM (#17411239)
That isn't in the cards for most people considering you can buy laptops for a fraction of the price and also that most people are getting Windows PC's from their employer
Re:The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be by zlynx on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @04:31PM (#17411589)
So problems with suspend aren't Windows. It's cheap crap laptops. Yep.