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Re:Trump Plans New Curbs on Chinese Investment, Tech Exports... by pavlov on Monday June 25, 2018 @03:06PM (#17394849)
> Americans can’t buy property there, China purchases $150B a year in residential property here

Would you even want to want to buy property in what you describe as an authoritarian, borderline totalitarian country?

The Chinese don't want their property to be subject to whims of party officials, so they invest elsewhere. This is a net positive for Americans (increasing real estate prices mean increasing total wealth), and also a creeping long-term negative for China which they can't easily fix without relinquishing control. Rather than trying to force the issue, USA should continue to take the high road and let the Communist Party slowly boil. It may take a long time, but the Chinese will eventually want their political freedom because they don't have real economic freedom without it.

Re:Trump Plans New Curbs on Chinese Investment, Tech Exports... by aniro on Monday June 25, 2018 @03:22PM (#17395005)
>>This is a net positive for Americans (increasing real estate prices mean increasing total wealth).

Uh, not so much. Being priced out of home ownership means a smaller and smaller portion of Americans would (do) benefit from this increased "total wealth".

Re:Trump Plans New Curbs on Chinese Investment, Tech Exports... by pavlov on Monday June 25, 2018 @05:27PM (#17395958)
Uneven wealth distribution is a problem that Americans could fix by themselves if they wanted to. The solution is not to drive foreign investment elsewhere.
Re:Trump Plans New Curbs on Chinese Investment, Tech Exports... by lord_ring_111 on Monday June 25, 2018 @10:15PM (#17397412)
It is a solution. Buying real-estate is not as economically productive as say creating a factory. We created factories in china, imported their goods, gave them $$$, with which they are slowly buying america. Remember every time u import, you are selling your country. If its not balanced with exports, you are eventually handing off the country. America was long depending on fooling other countriesby devaluing dollars, but tgat does not work with china.
Re:Trump Plans New Curbs on Chinese Investment, Tech Exports... by propman on Monday June 25, 2018 @11:55PM (#17397755)
Do I want to invest in the 2nd fastest growing economy in the world? One which has artificial controls to make sure my investment is stable, yes I do. Investment in non residential areas are heavily blocked with rules such as technology transfer, tarrifs, and management needing to be Chinese but is more appealing. Nonetheless, residential real estate in tier 1 Chinese cities is one of the best investments there is. It’s like investing in Manhattan, Paris, London, SF 30 years ago. You know as wealth is created your property value will exponentially grow. So the answer is a resounding yes.

It’s a net positive if it was a 2 way street. Currently, I’m competing with the entire world to purchase a house in the Valley. Chinese investment is in SV, LA, NYC, Vancouver, Toronto, NZ, Sydney and Melbourne. All areas where locals are priced out, income inequality is rampant, and only those who sell are realizing actual wealth. Salaries in those areas are higher solely for housing prices. That means our companies losing out on billions due to foreign unfair investment.

Chinese aren’t moving to these areas in many cases. They are just investing and parking their money, some of it through illicit means. In Canada, the majority of Chinese RE investment is through the drug trade. They are legitimizing this.

In NZ xenophobia has increased significantly so much that they are planning to block all foreign investments period. That doesn’t seem to be a net positive to me. Australia has jacked up foreign investment taxes twice and Canada 3 times in just 2 years. The latter are also turning more xenophobic and honestly I don’t blame them.

Re:Trump Plans New Curbs on Chinese Investment, Tech Exports... by swsieber on Monday June 25, 2018 @03:16PM (#17394936)
High real estate prices is a net win for a few Americans.