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Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by mrunkel on Saturday June 23, 2018 @07:39AM (#17380776)
Except that it's much harder to transfer large sums of cash across borders.

This is the drug business hardest problem, getting the drugs into the country is easier than getting earnings out.

Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by leoc on Saturday June 23, 2018 @10:43AM (#17381463)
That's why the €500 note was taken out of circulation: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/05/business/international/ec... .
Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by wslack on Saturday June 23, 2018 @09:46AM (#17381242)
Cash is also harder to collect and manage. It has a scaling problem that cryptocurrencies do not.
Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by dingo_bat on Saturday June 23, 2018 @10:02AM (#17381304)
Also cash is issued by the government at will. And nobody else can create cash. It's diametrically opposite to bitcoin's decentralized approach.
Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by lagadu on Saturday June 23, 2018 @12:18PM (#17381923)
I hope I don't come off as too glib but:

"Also bitcoin is issued by the consensus algorithm at will. And nobody else can create bitcoin."

Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by andrewflnr on Saturday June 23, 2018 @01:36PM (#17382334)
The superficial syntactic similarity of those statements is all they have in common. The mechanisms are, as one might expect, almost completely opposite.
Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by pintxo on Sunday June 24, 2018 @06:07AM (#17385864)
Oh, everyon can create their own cash. The problem is not printing some form of currency. The problem is getting other people to believe in the value of your money.
Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by 3pt14159 on Saturday June 23, 2018 @01:41PM (#17382350)
What I don't understand is how little this argument has changed over the past seven years.

Once policy makers understand crypto-contracts and cryptocurrencies for what they are they'll either regulate them to the point of where libertarians rue the day they were invented or they'll ban possession with jail-time as a punishment for knowingly holding them.

This isn't a novel insight. It's what I've said for the past seven years. It didn't stop me from buying Bitcoin in 2011 because I could see the medium term upside, but if anyone seriously thinks that these will become the backbone of our economy in their present form is delusional. Governments are not going to allow such a shift in power.

Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by CryptoPunk on Saturday June 23, 2018 @02:02PM (#17382463)
Governments are anwerable to the people. There are many actions that would allow governments to better enforce a whole suit of laws, including banning public use of strong cryptography and banning cash, but they don't do because we don't live in a tyranny where governments have a free hand to impose any restrictions they want to increase their relative power.

I've never understood this deification of governments, as if people are their subjects. Governments are created by the people to further their interests. Government power is not a public end on to itself, and the polity is suspicious of and to a large extant restrains government power.

Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by 3pt14159 on Saturday June 23, 2018 @03:41PM (#17383018)
Depends on the country, but the west uses the financial system to enforce law internationally. I do not think that then end of law enforcement is a good thing. It's not the deification of the state; merely pointing out that it will not suffer the loss of this power and, in my view, we shouldn't hope that it does.
Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by CryptoPunk on Saturday June 23, 2018 @07:04PM (#17383937)
So it's about what you think we in the West should hope for, not about what you think the government will tolerate. You support the current gateeeping of the financial system, and think the West would be harmed by the circumvention/disarming of laws that make it possible.

I don't agree that ending the financial surveillance state means the end of law enforcement. The surveillance state is a relatively new phenomenon, and I believe it has only one destination: extreme concentration of power, erosion of private property rights, and enablement of tyranny. There are many more means of gathering evidence of crimes besides warrantless surveillance.

Re:“They’ll Just Make It Illegal” by ghthor on Saturday June 23, 2018 @11:17PM (#17384753)
As an alternative future, the one I want to dee and am actively working torwards. Cryptocurrency platforms offer a way forward to begin again with how we design governments. I'm particularly excited about joining many different types of governance systems that are borderless and for the most part, resistant to attack by the legacy power structures. As these new types of governments grow and accumulate power we should see a diminished requirement for traditional border control and military might accumulation. It's a long shot, but it's the future I want.