Jogger accidentally crosses U.S. border from B.C., gets detained for 2 weeks

Re:Jogger accidentally crosses U.S. border from B.C., gets d... by mindcrime on Friday June 22, 2018 @04:13PM (#17376975)

Stateless/borderless is an absurd goal to seek.

Why do you say so? There's nothing inherently "good" or "just" about nation states. The only nominal support I can find for such an idea is rooted in applying something like Dunbar's Number[1]. But arguably appealing to that is committing a variation of the naturalistic fallacy[2].

The ridiculous treatment of the individual in the situation is something we should come down hard on that section of the government. (They should be facing an inquiry about that)

But who's going to conduct such an inquiry? The government? Oh, wait. It's the old "who watches the watchers?" problem. Me, I don't trust the government to provide oversight of itself. For the same reason I don't trust police to police themselves when it comes to excessive force cases, etc.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy

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Re:Jogger accidentally crosses U.S. border from B.C., gets d... by monksy on Friday June 22, 2018 @06:07PM (#17377874)

If you want to have a voice in your government, you have to have some kind of division in your area/nation.

Without borders or nations, you're suggesting there will be a universal law. Who's law do you want? Do you want to be forced to wear head coverings, do you want internet censorship? Do you want to have kickbacks from the cartel? Having different nations allows you to understand where there are tradeoffs.

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