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Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by alfredallan1 on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @08:18AM (#17354642)
So does this mean *this HN post is illegal because it links to a news article?
Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by ernesth on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @08:29AM (#17354709)
No. According to the so called link-tax article, it is not linking but putting content that makes a platform liable.

So this HN post would not be illegal because of the link, but maybe because of the title that was "stolen" from the publisher. The aim is at news.google.com and other search engines and news aggregators that include a blurb coming from the article along the link. To be honest, it is not yet clear if they intend for the title to be taxed or not.

Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @08:32AM (#17354738)
> it is not linking but putting content that makes a platform liable

All the comments quoting content would be taxable, though.

Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by ahel on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @08:45AM (#17354831)
> All the comments quoting content would be taxable, though.

Like this one.

Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @09:05AM (#17354959)
> Like this one

Not quite. My previous comment linked to another comment. I don't believe that would be covered by this copyright proposal.

What would be covered would be a HN user posting a link to an EU publication, my reading it, and then quoting from a portion of it. The simplest fix appears to be banning linking to EU publications.

Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by alfredallan1 on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @10:51AM (#17355908)
I don’t usually try to deliberately ask stupid questions, but I can’t help myself in this instance.

What counts as a EU publication? The author residing in the EU? Someone with a special “publisher” license? The author possessing EU citizenship? EU readership? .eu domain name? The domain registrar? The physical servers of the web hosting service? The backup service? What about those that use cloud services who have their physical infrastructure spread out wherever? And various combinations of the above…

Lastly, how would checking any of these be implemented by the software that’s supposed to be scanning for content that could possibly be in violation?

Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by hammock on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @09:10AM (#17354998)
@jumpcrisscross if ernesth was from the EU though, would his comment count as an EU publication?
Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by Uberphallus on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @08:38AM (#17354781)
But without a sample of the content, the title, links are useless, see my sibling comment.
Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by ernesth on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @08:45AM (#17354830)
If the content you use is written by you rather than the linked site, you are not concerned by this article. So paraphrasing the article or using an automatic summarization should keep you clear.
Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by glitchc on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @10:33AM (#17355750)
In addition, fair use laws protect you take an excerpt and present it alongside the link. 5% or 10% of the content depending on jurisdiction.
Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by Uberphallus on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @08:36AM (#17354772)
Yes. For example meneame.net, a Spanish news aggregator, has no links to any major Spanish newspaper, because a law of this sort is in place in Spain. They would have to pay to link or quote in any way, which includes a description of the link in most cases. Basically you can't write any meaningful text in your <a href=></>.
Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by z3t4 on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @09:15AM (#17355023)
Maybe this will improve the quality of HN submissions :P It's probably meant to make links to pirate torrents illegal though. If you have already made something publicly available eg availably for everyone for free, and you intent is to get as many readers as possible, then you can't really complain, and a sane judge would just laugh at anyone trying to sue for linking to it. What news sites used to complain about is that readers did not click on the article to go to the news site, as most of the article could be read on Google, with images and all.
Re:European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrou... by sebst on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @08:31AM (#17354725)
Not because it links, but because it uses the headline (which is copyright protected) as the link text.

In this special case, it might not be a violation as it links to a public service broadcast site.

(IANAL)