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Re:In the Philippines, Dynamite Fishing Decimates Entire Oce... by shams93 on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @04:07AM (#17344608)

The Philippines are catholic so birth control might actually be illegal, if the Catholic Church is concerned about the environment they need to promote birth control not present it as a cardinal sin. Countries like this the pope holds a heck of a lot of sway. He talks a good game about global warming but here is where the rubber meets the road. For the sake of the common good they need to shift the focus of sin from sex to wrecking the environment and causing overpopulation.

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Re:In the Philippines, Dynamite Fishing Decimates Entire Oce... by candiodari on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @06:09AM (#17345213)

And what is the solution given that these people exist ? Because undoing that seems immoral now, even by non-catholic standards.

I mean the best interpretation of your comment is wishing for an alternate world (in which millions of people would never have been alive in the first place). In the middle the comment is assigning blame for that. At worst ...

I get that dozens of millions of people not being alive would solve your problem ... but I do hope you understand that nobody, especially not those few dozen millions, agree. And that does mean that you'll have to come with a different solution.

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Re:In the Philippines, Dynamite Fishing Decimates Entire Oce... by jackvalentine on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @08:41AM (#17346013)

He’s talking about the millions of people not yet born.

When you find yourself in a hole the first thing to do is stop digging.

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Re:In the Philippines, Dynamite Fishing Decimates Entire Oce... by candiodari on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @09:49AM (#17346541)

And what will happen to the country and the economy that sustains them if they "stop digging" ?

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Re:In the Philippines, Dynamite Fishing Decimates Entire Oce... by jackvalentine on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @10:08AM (#17346718)

We'll have to figure that out, won't we? The Philippines birth rate is somewhere in the vicinity of 3 children per woman. What's a more sustainable number?

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Re:In the Philippines, Dynamite Fishing Decimates Entire Oce... by candiodari on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @10:02PM (#17351931)

Economically, to take care of those ?

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Re:In the Philippines, Dynamite Fishing Decimates Entire Oce... by jackvalentine on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @10:54PM (#17352205)

How did you come to that number and why do you think a double the replacement birth-rate can be sustained forever?

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Re:In the Philippines, Dynamite Fishing Decimates Entire Oce... by candiodari on Sunday June 24, 2018 @09:23AM (#17386453)

I would come to the number by calculating how people will support themselves and others, and yet have a reasonable load on them.

That number seems to be at least greater than 3. So 4. Probably it's more like 3.1 or so.

How did you get to the conclusion that the island of the Philippines can't support (from now, and for a VERY long time in the future, even if perhaps not indefinitely) 3 children per woman ?

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