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Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by zacharycohn on Friday June 15, 2018 @11:27PM (#17325649)
Check your timelines. Obama was elected in 2008, and BlackBerry was the dominant player in the market at that point.

Also, he DID swap out his phone for a secured one, and his staff instituted a number of security protocols to keep it secure.

Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by boomboomsubban on Saturday June 16, 2018 @12:37AM (#17325875)
A dominant player, yet Obama needed a special highly modified version to securely access the White House network. A huge amount of work to keep using what he was comfortable with.
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by los_angeles on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:54AM (#17326489)
Which makes complete sense. He is the most powerful individual in a country of 300+ million people. If he needs a certain thing to keep him operating at peak efficiency and focus, he gets that thing. Period. Unless it violates national security.

Being elected president is not the time to learn a new technology suite. Hopefully most presidents have better things to do with their time than that.

At that level your people have people who have people to deal with that kind of minutiae.

Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by boomboomsubban on Saturday June 16, 2018 @06:23AM (#17326851)
>Being elected president is not the time to learn a new technology suite. Hopefully most presidents have better things to do with their time than that.

At what level does this stop being a waste of time for the person?

I'm not suggesting Obama should have been forced to change, but every else in his administration was forced to change. There's some serious clashing between the need for secure devices and the reluctance to change from old technology.

Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by untog on Saturday June 16, 2018 @07:37AM (#17327013)
I think it's fair to ask what the secure alternative platform was. I wouldn't be surprised if it was five years out of date and barely functional. I think the President ought to be able to say "this is crap, improve it".
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by rramdin on Monday June 18, 2018 @02:40PM (#17340591)
Hopefully your people's people's people don't interpret "setup e-mail for Mrs. Clinton to use on her Blackberry" as "setup an e-mail server on Mrs. Clinton's existing hardware and configure it on her Blackberrry."
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by steve_musk on Saturday June 16, 2018 @12:50AM (#17325913)
Was there another smartphone platform he could have used at the time that would have been less work to secure? A secure smartphone for the President seems well worth the effort.
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by boomboomsubban on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:05AM (#17326300)
I don't know what their preferred phone was at the time, but they were unwilling to go through the same effort for the Secretary of State, instead offering her a choice of non-BlackBerry phones.
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by willstrafach on Saturday June 16, 2018 @11:23AM (#17327732)
This is likely because his modified BlackBerry was a one-off project suited to his security requirements.

My understanding is that internal hardware was removed/shielded, and I assume software modifications were made as well, like only connecting to specific cellular base stations (such as the one in his official vehicle).

Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by akhilcacharya on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:11AM (#17326325)
Which is absurd, a SOS is mobile far more than a President by nature.
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by fapjacks on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:53AM (#17326633)
I think the importance of this cannot be understated. The Secretary of State is a nexus of not only extremely sensitive information, but of extremely sensitive information in motion which is also in overseas locations more often than not. If I were into tradecraft, I'd be much more likely to target the Secretary of State than the President for access to (relevant, valuable) sensitive information.
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by beojan on Saturday June 16, 2018 @01:21AM (#17325988)
BlackBerry was probably the closest, and I expect they already knew what modifications to make.
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by omarforgotpwd on Saturday June 16, 2018 @02:04AM (#17326136)
BlackBerry was the best thing you could get at the time. Obviously things have changed since then -- BlackBerry hardly exists anymore!
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by NicoJuicy on Saturday June 16, 2018 @05:03AM (#17326655)
But he did use it secure, not like Trump
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by warent on Saturday June 16, 2018 @12:12AM (#17325783)
As an aside: wow that timeline makes me feel really old
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by int_19h on Saturday June 16, 2018 @02:11AM (#17326154)
How about the part where we're further away from Win7 in time, than Win7 was from WinXP? It'll be 10 years since Win7 RTM next year!
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by scruple on Saturday June 16, 2018 @01:23AM (#17325998)
Yeah, I had the same reaction. This sort of stuff makes me _feel old_. But I'm not actually "old," so what gives?
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by fapjacks on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:55AM (#17326637)
That's the trap, and Seneca wrote some compelling stuff about recognizing the trap and avoiding it. It is aptly titled "On the Shortness of Life"...
Re:FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohe... by scruple on Monday June 18, 2018 @01:43PM (#17340124)
Thanks for that. I had come across some of Seneca's writing before, while researching / reading about Stoicism, but hadn't come across this specific text, that I recall.