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Re:Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personal... by mlthoughts2018 on Friday June 15, 2018 @11:52AM (#17320684)
“Make your children interesting,” Faust said, while rubbing her thumb against her index and middle fingers and winking at the audience.
Re:Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personal... by JackFr on Friday June 15, 2018 @12:26PM (#17321033)
The thing is Harvard doesn't need your money. If your non-legacy family has the resources to make a big enough donation to move to move the needle, your likely to either: 1) get in anyway just based on who you are, or 2) not really care whether you go to Harvard or not because you're the scion of generational wealth.
Re:Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personal... by mlthoughts2018 on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:01PM (#17322534)
I think this is incorrect. It reminds me of The Simpsons' joke about Bill Gates, ("buy him out boys ... what, did you think I got rich by writing a bunch of checks?").

Harvard doesn't need anybody's money, but they sure aren't going to use endowment money to make things free. They want your money, regardless of whether or not they need it, whether it's a huge status-signaling donation or a drop in the ocean semester's worth of tuition. They absolutely are trying to optimize how to get that money, now and in the future.

I also think you underestimate how much big scions of generational wealth compete for status symbols like Harvard degrees. Once things become decoupled from money, that type of status signaling only increases in importance, lending legitimacy to the children of foreign rulers and diplomats, acting as a currency to normalize political relations with western countries or between corporations with vastly different political party affiliations.

Harvard sells status, and absolutely is looking at how to monetize that. If offering a pittance of tuition relief to underrepresented groups helps maintain their entrenched brand status, they'll do it because of the long term effect on their ability to monetize reputation, not in spite of.

It also reminds me of how Harvard absolutely hounds graduates for donations, despite utterly not needing them by comparison to what Harvard Management Corporation does. Mike Reiss (Simpsons writer and Harvard alum) skewered this in [0], saying among other things,

> "Harvard is like a bum who starts bugging you for spare change on the bus. And then follows you around for the rest of your life. Oh, and that bum already has $40 billion in the bank."

[0]: < https://features.thecrimson.com/2014/fm-comedy-issue/article... >

Re:Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personal... by perl4ever on Friday June 15, 2018 @08:35PM (#17324973)
"Harvard doesn't need anybody's money, but they sure aren't going to use endowment money to make things free."

I thought Harvard did make it essentially free to attend if your parents have a middle class income.

Re:Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personal... by mlthoughts2018 on Friday June 15, 2018 @08:41PM (#17325002)
Around 20% don’t pay tuition I believe. But keep in mind that Harvard tilts heavy toward grad student population, and selects heavily for students that win fellowships and this brings in outside money (that is how I got to attend) and master’s students who typically pay full tuition. Among my PhD cohort, it was a common joke to say that 1 graduate student was funding X free undergrads in the department (given that we were all supported fully, including insurance, by outside funding).

20% of undergrads going tuition-free is just part of Harvard’s marketing budget. It’s not philanthropy, just the cost of doing business if your business is elite status signaling.

Re:Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personal... by ythn on Friday June 15, 2018 @12:03PM (#17320781)
I thought it was funny