Re:Don’t Fear the Robots: Why Automation Doesn’t Mean the En...
by krapp on Thursday June 14, 2018 @05:41PM
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>Unless we make it happen. By instituting a UBI for instance. Or expanding human rights to include food and shelter.
In the US, that's going to be a difficult sell. States threatened to secede over the ACA and that was nowhere near as "socialist" as a universal income or right to food and shelter would be.
It could happen, but it seems like it would take a serious social and political upheaval, and the winds currently seem to be blowing in the other direction entirely. I hope it doesn't take something on the scale of the Great Depression to bring it about.
Re:Don’t Fear the Robots: Why Automation Doesn’t Mean the En...
by JoeAltmaier on Thursday June 14, 2018 @05:55PM
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Just public reeducation. I think as soon as "you get a check in the mail" is presented, folks will change their minds sooner than we think.
Re:Don’t Fear the Robots: Why Automation Doesn’t Mean the En...
by lovich on Thursday June 14, 2018 @08:44PM
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Are we supposed to just shoot ourselves in the foot because some people want to do it? At some point this level of difference in political views can only come to violence if one side is "we should tax the richest more" and the other side is "if you're poor then you are going to starve".
And before anyone calls that hyperbole, I don't see how refusing to provide some sort of garunteed welfare that provides food and housing is not "if you're poor you are gonna starve" in a system where access to food and shelter is tied to your income
"Who will pay for all this?!" is the usual outcry. Ignoring the very premise that automation has taken over the role of producing all this. Its a circular argument that has roots in the Protestant Work Ethic (independent of Capitalism) where "If I have to work, they everybody has to work dad gum it!"