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Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by kentm on Thursday June 14, 2018 @03:05PM (#17314426)
There’s a difference between requiring source code as a precondition for selling and stopping sales of a product on documented safety concerns and requiring participation in an investigation to resume sales. It’s down to whether the law is correctly written to distinguish the two.
Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by yellowapple on Thursday June 14, 2018 @04:45PM (#17315224)
Personally, I'd much prefer proactive auditing (i.e. requiring source code) over waiting until someone is injured and possibly killed to launch an investigation.

Transparency is a dependency of trust. There's no going around that. If a product is not transparent, then it is not trustworthy, period. I'm not at all inclined to wait for something to violate my trust further before demanding a prerequisite for that trust. Governments shouldn't be so inclined, either, especially when it comes to human safety.

Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by adrianN on Friday June 15, 2018 @12:31AM (#17317557)
I'd also like that, but even today there is lots of software that can kill people if it contains bugs. It is usually enough that the makers can prove that they followed some process like EN50128. Source code is not required. I don't think there are competent people available for auditing source code.
Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by gregknicholson on Friday June 15, 2018 @07:06AM (#17318883)
I agree. I just don't think we should collectively allow companies to hide their source code and still be considered trustworthy.

— especially for innovative safety algorithms that could save the lives of their competitors' customers, if only the code was reusable.

Competent auditors will emerge if there's demand. There were once no competent astronauts!

Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by yellowapple on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:06PM (#17321437)
"I don't think there are competent people available for auditing source code."

Probably not, but by requiring companies to disclose source code on request, effective independent audit of that code is merely improbable versus effectively impossible.