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Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by dragonwriter on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:13PM (#17313946)
> How would a country claw source code from a vendor in another nation, if they did not sign this agreement?

By making it a condition of allowing imports of the product, which is why that's exactly what the provision prohibits.

Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by EGreg on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:27PM (#17314086)
And why is that so bad? A nation should be allowed to enforce laws to know the source code of its software because otherwise backdoors could kick in at some point, and other nasty stuff.
Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by bunderbunder on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:46PM (#17314270)
Just like private citizens, a nation should also be allowed to enter into contracts where all the parties agree not to do things to each other that none of them want to have done to themselves.
Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by DoctorOetker on Thursday June 14, 2018 @05:42PM (#17315668)
You are simply describing the concept of a mutually symmetric contract. I think everybody here understands that concept.

Nations should also decide in a way that is representative of the desire of the population.

Perhaps the population thinks the following:

"Just like private citizens, a nation should also be allowed to enter into contracts where all the parties agree not to do things [commit cyber crime/negligence hidden behind the veil of closed source software] to each other that none of them want to have done to themselves."

Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by ISL on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:35PM (#17314162)
Such a requirement has positives and negatives, which are dependent upon point of view.

From the position of a free-trade agreement, it would be a statement of trust. We trust you enough to be our partner that we won't attempt to claw open your citizens' code if, in return, you don't do so to our citizens' code.

Entering such an agreement might be unwise, should a counterparty turn out to be disreputable or irresponsible.

Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by URSpider94 on Thursday June 14, 2018 @03:41PM (#17314711)
Certain countries (China) have used this as a way to gain access to technologically advanced source code. They then turn around and share that code to domestic industry so that they can develop competing products that blatantly rip off the foreign companies.
Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by EGreg on Thursday June 14, 2018 @06:28PM (#17315981)
I like that improvements in code are available to everyone.

Why not? Collaboration is far superior to competition as you can see Wikipedia beating Britannica and so on.

We just criticize it using our current capitalistic paradigm.

Re:Copyleft terms may become unenforceable in 11 countries d... by URSpider94 on Friday June 15, 2018 @12:43AM (#17317585)
You are confusing open source with theft. I never said that China was open-sourcing the code, I said they are misappropriating it and giving it to specific Chinese companies. And, they certainly aren’t mandating that the Chinese companies return their improvements to the commons, or even to the company they stole from.