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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by Retric on Thursday June 14, 2018 @12:29PM (#17312857)
FIOS includes TV. The real issue is Verizon is not that much better than cable companies.
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by rayiner on Thursday June 14, 2018 @12:57PM (#17313126)
I'm not sure I understand your first point? TV is a major part of the economics of fiber deployment. Chattanooga's fiber system also includes TV, so does Google Fiber. As to your second point--have you ever had FiOS? Verizon's wireline division is run like old-school AT&T--FiOS is very high quality.
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by Retric on Thursday June 14, 2018 @01:18PM (#17313312)
I have used FIOS for the last 5 years. For a while they where throttling Netflix just like the Cable companies, so better sure but they also wanted to kill net neutrality just like the cable companies.

As to TV, you spread the network costs over both internet AND cable TV and should include a portion of TV/equipment rental revenue when calculating payback periods. Cord cutters are significant, but many people still want cable TV channels and rent DVR's.

Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by rayiner on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:15PM (#17313975)
I agree you need to include TV revenue--that's why I threw in Verizon's $110 ARPU (which includes TV), and suggested that Boulder's more expensive system would have to hit an even higher number like $140 (including TV).