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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by visarga on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @01:23PM (#17305172)
With this paper our last shreds of privacy are being taken away, but they presented the news with nice background music, so there's that.
Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by Jach on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @03:34PM (#17306237)
Guess you shouldn't read about what synthetic aperture radar systems have been able to do for decades... you can actually make a ghetto radar capable of capturing the data used for this demo with about $350 (in 2012) in materials. But don't worry too much. Their limitations section states that "the operating distance of a radio is dependent on its transmission power" so their system only works reliably up to 40 feet, which is true, but the dominating factor is simply distance, because any signal you get back will be attenuated proportional to 1/r^4. Pumping up the transmitted power to compensate takes a lot of energy that quickly gets you into needing operating licenses. Not to mention moving to using different frequencies that can give higher resolution of whatever you're imaging...
Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by godelmachine on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:21PM (#17314043)
It's because of the distance limitation that it will be used for medical purposes mostly, methinks.
Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by bufbupa on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:31PM (#17305797)
Meh, that seems a little sensationalist. Any significant metal would likely throw this in a loop. You could even buy paint with graphite in it to block weak RF signals outright. IIRC most military bases and data centers protect against this sort of leakage.
Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by Sammi on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @03:19PM (#17306148)
The potential for open/outdoor spaces is scary though. Radio "CCTVs" that see everyone over a large area.
Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by kinsomo on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:55PM (#17305975)
> Meh, that seems a little sensationalist. Any significant metal would likely throw this in a loop

Maybe even chicken wire in the walls.

Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by vertexFarm on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @08:59PM (#17308408)
They already have your up-to-the-second location and all your private data. All this adds is what pose you're currently making with your body.

Speaking of, I was halfway expecting to see a couple stick figures banging each other behind a wall somewhere in that video. I really think that would have been the frosting on top; they should consider this for the next video when it's time for another round of funding.

Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by jwilk on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @03:10PM (#17306086)
The skeletons appear to have very long legs, but no torsos.

I wonder if it was made intentionally that way to make them look less serious.

Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by randcraw on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @03:44PM (#17306330)
I also wonder how accurate their estimates are of arm and leg poses, much less their motions. I do believe they can detect the location of a torso. I don't believe they can do the same for forearms, hands, legs, or feet, or their precise motions.

I suspect the articulated pose and motion of their animated stick figures were extrapolated from progressions of articulations of limb poses that were learned from the light-based training videos, and then they were overlaid onto the wifi-based signal of only the moving trunk.

All that animation does look cool, though.

Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by chaosmachine on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @01:37PM (#17305294)
"Attacks only get better".
Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by maxerickson on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:43PM (#17306754)
No, this research documents information you are already leaking, it isn't taking anything away.