Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals

Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by sudhirj on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @01:21PM (#17305153)

Love it. This is a game mechanic / movie superhero device that's been around a long time, just love the fact that this does it so simply and with so much promise. As sensitivity and the quality of the neural net increases, combined with AR, this is going to make super soldiers out of SWAT teams.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by gknoy on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @01:44PM (#17305372)

Maybe SWAT can use this to validate that it's actually the right house when serving a no-knock warrant. I'm cynical enough to feel like there's no way this is good for any of their targets, though.

Edit: Kolpa makes a really good point! This seems like a really good counter to SWATting, where the claim is that someone is holding hostages or something -- this could pretty effectively demonstrate that to be false if they see one person in an apartment sitting at a computer.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by sudhirj on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:16PM (#17305669)

No possible improvement to a SWAT team is ever good for a target. But I think this will prevent false positives a bit. Knowing the posture and stance of the people inside a room can help with where you aim as you go in.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by noonespecial on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @03:26PM (#17306193)

I'd be more afraid that they'd "fear for their lives" at every broomstick and fishing pole they saw through a wall and would start shooting before they even got to the door.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by John_KZ on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @03:27PM (#17306203)

This. It's quite possible that if it looks like you're holding something, they'll just shoot through the wall before even entering.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by kinsomo on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:57PM (#17305993)

> Maybe SWAT can use this to validate that it's actually the right house when serving a no-knock warrant.

How would a stick figure images help a SWAT team validate that they're at the right house?

This could only help them by giving them a clue about where to point their guns once they bust down the door.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by kolpa on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @03:01PM (#17306021)

For example, if they are expecting to find someone with several hostages, and they only find people lying in bed...

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by wcunning on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:21PM (#17305704)

And this is why you build a shipping container house -- free Faraday cage, built right in. Not mention that it's not hard to convert shipping containers to meet California earthquake code, or so I've read.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by beenBoutIT on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @05:33PM (#17307155)

An earthquake could easily convert such a structure into a casket that 'respects your privacy' with no hope of dialing out for help.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @03:43PM (#17306310)

> Not mention that it's not hard to convert shipping containers to meet California earthquake code, or so I've read.

Other than bolting crap down wouldn't that basically consist of making sure it won't tip over?

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by alexbeloi on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @01:39PM (#17305314)

I hope you're not doing anything illegal, citizen.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by warent on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:07PM (#17305589)

Was just thinking that this reminds me of the alien weapon in Perfect Dark: https://youtu.be/8DlVQ6OjRcA?t=6s

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by mLuby on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:27PM (#17305772)

Pretty common in games actually:

- Deus Ex: Human Revolution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WoaLJ10ZB8

- GoldenEye: Rogue Agent https://youtu.be/EV8xxZec4j8?t=6m39s

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by renborg on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @01:56PM (#17305489)

but thermal imaging is already available without AI or WiFi..

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by namibj on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @06:42PM (#17307624)

You might want to take a look at Big Clive's video about the radar motion detectors in Chinese E27 socket LED bulbs [0], which have become cheaper even back in mid-2016 than good old PIR motion detectors. The latter are basically a castrated Flir-style camera, the former closer to this.

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgdXRLjYkc4

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by sudhirj on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:17PM (#17305676)

Not through walls. Radio penetrates a lot more than heat.

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Re:Through-Wall Human Pose Estimation Using Radio Signals by bufferoverflow on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:18PM (#17305685)

Thermal doesn't work through/around walls.

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