I love the Idea, and I think it's pretty smart. When I'm doing work on my laptop, I always have my phone nearby. I think it's unlikely that both of them are compromised or stolen simultaneously.

Also, the Android app requires no device permissions, haven't seen that in a while.

> the Android app requires no device permissions

That's not true, it just uses the new way to ask for permissions. E.g. when you want to scan a QR code it requires the camera permission. But it only asks at that moment, not upfront as older android apps used to do

Could someone use Firefox and Chrome extension on the same device as two different devices?

Yes, but it's a very bad idea. If you'd do this, you could unlock your passwords with a single device by confirming on Firefox or vice-versa on Chrome. This of course also means that if someone steals this device, they can unlock it too.

So don't do it.

Yeah. That's what I don't want. So how do you prevent someone doing just that? They have Chrome open. They then confirm setup in Firefox using Chrome on the same device.

When pairing a new device (or in this case a new browser), that device doesn't automatically get any keys! When adding a new device, to complete the setup you also have to be able to unlock a password group, for which you need another device that already has keys.

In short, a new device doesn't have the same power as the others from the start, first new keys have to be generated which can only happen if you are able to unlock your passwords.

So just don't setup both the Firefox and Chrome extension and you're golden.

Ah. So you essentially need 2 devices to set up a new device.

Exactly. Or even 3 if you make use of security level 3.

The only exception is at the start when there are no passwords stored yet.

That's pretty interesting. It's a trade-off between remembering a password and making sure you have enough devices. I personally would trust my brain (and a backup piece of paper) more than one of my devices that might die at any moment. I use KeePass, but NoKey seems great.

But wouldn't you agree that your brain + NoKey instead of a piece of paper as a backup would be more secure? And more convenient, as you don't have to type your passwords anymore.

I don't wanna push you, just wanna give you some things to think about. As long as you use strong and unique passwords everywhere you're good.

Also, it's not a big problem if one of your devices dies, as long as you paired enough devices you won't lose any passwords.

Sorry, what I said was probably confusing.

I meant, I keep the password to KeePass in my brain and in backup places. I'm unlikely to lose all those.

>Also, it's not a big problem if one of your devices dies, as long as you paired enough devices you won't lose any passwords.

Not everyone has a million devices.

Ah ok, got it. If you are already using KeePass than there is no reason to use NoKey, KeePass is great!

> Not everyone has a million devices.

I don't think that's fair. With 3 devices you're perfectly ok. Or even with only 2, if you also use a "key box" (gives you one "device" more at the cost of having to remember a password).

I only routinely use 2 devices. I'm very heavily into the tech scene and could afford more devices if I wished.

Some people don't live in a place where it's easy to afford multiple devices.

Many non-tech people don't even use a desktop PC anymore. They just have a smartphone.

Believe what you will, but it is certainly fair to say not everyone has enough devices for this service to make sense. For example, me, with 2 devices.

>If you are already using KeePass than there is no reason to use NoKey, KeePass is great!

Exactly.