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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by ocdtrekkie on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:02AM (#17284248)
This isn't really true. Netflix, for example, strongarms ISPs into colocating their boxes for free, which bring massive amounts of their data closer to consumers, and guarantees them some of the best performance on the Internet.

If ISPs were able to charge for this (they want to), Netflix would have to pay a lot more for this sort of premium placement, giving smaller players much more room to compete financially. (i.e., if Netflix's cost to provide this best-in-class service they currently get for free is much higher, either it's more financially viable for small companies to pay for the same service, or they'll be able to offer video on demand cheaper than Netflix does)

Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by bootlooped on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:17AM (#17284384)
> If ISPs were able to charge for this (they want to), Netflix would have to pay a lot more for this sort of premium placement, giving smaller players much more room to compete financially.

This sounds like you're claiming that greater barriers to entry make it easier for smaller firms. In economics I think the opposite is generally accepted as true.

Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by Dylan16807 on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @03:49AM (#17291459)
> If ISPs were able to charge for this (they want to), Netflix would have to pay a lot more for this sort of premium placement, giving smaller players much more room to compete financially.

We've already seen that ISPs will abuse peering to charge for non-premium placement. And they'll charge that to smaller players too. So the end result is that Netflix will still get colocated, while smaller players are even worse off because they're paying extra for peering.

Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by tzs on Monday June 11, 2018 @12:32PM (#17285761)
> his isn't really true. Netflix, for example, strongarms ISPs into colocating their boxes for free

How do they "strongarm" them?

Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by nneonneo on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:18AM (#17284397)
Can you provide a citation for this? Curious to see what kinds of arrangements they made.

What’s to say that Netflix won’t strongarm ISPs after the NN repeal? No ISP wants to be the ISP that doesn’t have good Netflix support anymore, given their popularity and clout.

Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by monocasa on Monday June 11, 2018 @09:04PM (#17289969)
Comcast owns 30% of Hulu. They'd probably like for Netflix to be slow, but Hulu to be fast.
Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by mcguire on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:35AM (#17284547)
What stops Netflix from getting ISPs to slow access to other, smaller video players? It's not like the customers have a choice.
Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by jonbarker on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:13AM (#17284355)
I don't think the debate is over whether to allow Netflix to survive, Netflix will be OK and has a good bargaining position with regard to ISPs because they have content everyone wants. The more interesting question is are we creating a system that allows independent bloggers, vloggers, and other content creators to get discovered and be compensated either through ads or subscriptions or some other model.
Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by zoul on Monday June 11, 2018 @10:03AM (#17284260)
…giving smaller players much more room to compete financially.

I beg your pardon?