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Re:A Costly, Deadly Obsession with Coal by mchannon on Thursday June 07, 2018 @04:39PM (#17260041)
Zero carbon emissions? The uranium drag line, trucks, ships, trains, and smelters are all fossil fuel powered, and that doesn't include the prodigious amounts of steel and cement needed for a nuclear plant. It might be less carbon-intensive than, say, oil, but it's certainly nowhere near zero.

LFTR reactors, if they actually had significant economic potential, wouldn't need incentives. India or China would have gone all-out on them, but the fact is they still require Uranium to get started, and even in theory they aren't much better than what we're currently using for fission-based power.

Ignoring both coal and nuclear is pretty much inevitable, as long as natural gas and renewables stay this cheap or cheaper.

Re:A Costly, Deadly Obsession with Coal by cornholio on Thursday June 07, 2018 @04:56PM (#17260183)
> The uranium drag line, trucks, ships, trains, and smelters are all fossil fuel powered, and that doesn't include the prodigious amounts of steel and cement needed for a nuclear plant.

There is considerably less ore mining and refining involved in nuclear compared to renewable, due to the orders of magnitude higher energy density.

It's fallacious reasoning, because by that standard, NOTHING produced by the current society is zero carbon. Nuclear itself is zero carbon, just like wind or solar. But all three require material that could conceivably be produced in a zero carbon / 100% offset regimen. So the correct approach is to push for zero carbon transport, zero carbon cement etc. Or just tax the carbon to get it to a planetary safe level and let the market allocate.

Re:A Costly, Deadly Obsession with Coal by greedo on Thursday June 07, 2018 @05:05PM (#17260264)
Natural gas needs to be phased out due to CO2.
Re:A Costly, Deadly Obsession with Coal by grizzles on Friday June 08, 2018 @01:25AM (#17262810)
There are several ways now to burn natural gas without releasing even a single ounce of CO2 into the atmosphere. For example, one way cracks natural gas into hydrogen and into solid black carbon which is a fine powder, and easy to store away.

Natural gas will be an integral of the energy mix for the next 50 years at least.

Re:A Costly, Deadly Obsession with Coal by greglindahl on Thursday June 07, 2018 @07:16PM (#17261224)
Eventually, yes. One nice thing about the US natural gas boom is that power plants for natural gas have much lower capital costs than coal plants, so there will be less screaming when they are eventually shut down.
Re:A Costly, Deadly Obsession with Coal by st26 on Thursday June 07, 2018 @07:08PM (#17261175)
Eventually, but for now it's a 50% reduction over coal.