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Re:Suicide rising across the US by CydeWeys on Thursday June 07, 2018 @03:14PM (#17259174)
Still missing context. Are schoolyard bullies actually doing this to other kids? Or are you talking about something else? Can you speak plainly and not use analogies?
Re:Suicide rising across the US by ars on Thursday June 07, 2018 @03:23PM (#17259277)
You've really never experienced being told that unless you are a minority (ideally an oppressed one) or a victim, or at the very least, you have some non-typical sexual identity, you are worthless?

You have not noticed people making up sexual identities that they don't really have? Or inventing (or inflating) victim stories about themself?

Re:Suicide rising across the US by sp332 on Thursday June 07, 2018 @03:54PM (#17259613)
The sexual minorities have far higher suicide rates, so I don't think that would explain the numbers we're seeing here. https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/preventing-suicid...
Re:Suicide rising across the US by CydeWeys on Thursday June 07, 2018 @04:46PM (#17260100)
I've basically never seen the former. I do see 100X as much ranting against it though. It's hard to feel oppressed when you fit into all the majority categories.

As for people "making up" aspects of their identity ... so? Who fucking cares? It doesn't affect me at all, let alone make me more prone to committing suicide!!!

Re:Suicide rising across the US by ars on Thursday June 07, 2018 @05:08PM (#17260284)
> so?

You missed the point. Correct, who cares. But why are they driven to do it? It's because otherwise they are not valued. (If you have another theory let's hear it.)

> I've basically never seen the former. I do see 100X as much ranting against it though.

You don't spend enough time on college campuses, and you especially don't spend enough time listening to liberal student yell and scream if someone conservative dares to talk.

Or maybe you spend just the right amount of time LOL. Ignoring those kind of liberals probably helps one's sanity.

Re:Suicide rising across the US by sp332 on Friday June 08, 2018 @09:56AM (#17265382)
25% of transgender students were physically attacked for being transgender. One in six left school because of mistreatment and one in twelve were kicked out of the house. Jumping from those facts to the conclusion that they are just doing it to feel "valued" is bizarre. You might just as well say they're in it for the money, since they are three times more likely to be unemployed and twice as likely to be in poverty. https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS...

Lots more detail at http://www.ustranssurvey.org/reports if you're actually interested.

Re:Suicide rising across the US by DannyB2 on Thursday June 07, 2018 @03:26PM (#17259317)
The bully / victim could be filled in with different values.

The Bully says to gay kid, your very existence offends me.

The White Bully says to non-white kid, your very existence offends me.

The Sports Hero says to the Computer Nerd, your very existence offends me.

Make other substitutions for bully / victim as you see fit. But it's not an analogy. It really happens.

Re:Suicide rising across the US by DannyB2 on Thursday June 07, 2018 @03:23PM (#17259272)
I did not make the original post. I was attempting to clarify it. I was not using an analogy at all.

I literally meant: A bully said to victim that victim's very existence is offensive to bully.

IMO, that summarizes how I interpreted the original top level post.

Re:Suicide rising across the US by esdkl22 on Thursday June 07, 2018 @03:42PM (#17259495)
He's talking about underprivileged people expressing frustration and anger towards the privileged.
Re:Suicide rising across the US by tzahola on Thursday June 07, 2018 @03:21PM (#17259253)
I think he/she is referring to white males.