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Re:If wages are to rise, workers need more bargaining power by nunya213 on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @09:49AM (#17247112)
Americans have the worst Health outcomes while spending the most by far out of all developed nations. Your libertarian shtick can't get you out of that one.
Re:If wages are to rise, workers need more bargaining power by mattmcknight on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @10:44AM (#17247521)
"Asian-Americans" in the US have a greater life expectancy than Japanese in Japan. "Latinos" in the US have a greater life expectancy than Swiss in Switzerland. "Whites" in Minnesota have a greater life expectancy than Canadians in Canada. It's not that simple.

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/life-expectancy-by...

Re:If wages are to rise, workers need more bargaining power by GFischer on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @10:53AM (#17247614)
Libertarians I know are horrified by the U.S. way of handling healthcare. It's not a "free" system by any conceivable metric.

https://mises.org/wire/how-government-regulations-made-healt...

My country (Uruguay) is the total opposite, it has some nasty warts, but socialized basic medicine + the option of purchasing better healthcare if wanted seems like a much better system.

Re:If wages are to rise, workers need more bargaining power by nunya213 on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @12:54PM (#17248782)
The downvote brigade is out in force today. Truly disgusting how the vast majority of those SV are either left wing SJW types or "da free market cures all ills" nuts. Diversity of ideas is nonexistent.
Re:If wages are to rise, workers need more bargaining power by s73v3r_ on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @01:02PM (#17248855)
Complaining that no one agrees with you does not mean that there is no "diversity of ideas." It means that people have decided your ideas aren't good.
Re:If wages are to rise, workers need more bargaining power by nunya213 on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @04:27PM (#17250819)
Yes I'm sure that's what they taught you at Vassar kiddo. Do you need a safe space now?
Re:If wages are to rise, workers need more bargaining power by s73v3r_ on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @05:04PM (#17251118)
I'm not the one acting like a "snowflake" because people aren't praising my ideas.
Re:If wages are to rise, workers need more bargaining power by paulpauper on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @10:03AM (#17247205)
The US has higher cancer survival rates than Europe

https://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/07/most...

Also the US develops most of the drugs used by those other countries. IF Drug companies charged UK prices in America, they would not be profitable. Someone has to pay the bill for drug development. In this case, it's the US.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-90fb34d138bbf4ebc946ca...

it's not a libertarian view, just the data.

Re:If wages are to rise, workers need more bargaining power by nunya213 on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @10:26AM (#17247388)
>The US has higher cancer survival rates than Europe

First of all that source is from a pseudo-intellectual religious journal and carries little to no weight in my opinion, even if it did they admit that those numbers are differentiated by early screening in the US and this has little to do with treatment quality, such a statement on quality would need to control for this difference in screening.

>Also the US develops most of the drugs used by those other countries. IF Drug companies charged UK prices in America, they would not be profitable. Someone has to pay the bill for drug development. In this case, it's the US.

Only 5 of the top 10 largest Pharmaceutical companies are American and 3 of the top 5 are European so this statement is just not true.

Your quaint views on Economics are obviously libertarian, in the failed American political party sense, and frankly the data is not on your side.