Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by ssijak on Monday June 04, 2018 @04:58AM
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How is Apple not developer friendly?
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Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by onion2k on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:01AM
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XCode is a clunky horrible mess of an IDE, iTunes Connect is worse, and they charge $100/year for a developer account. Also, they try to lock you in to buying Apple hardware to develop for Apple devices (though you can get around that using, among others, Microsoft's Visual Studio App Center).
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by ssijak on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:11AM
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You can use AppCode. XCode being a mess is not making Apple developer unfriendly, it just means that they don`t know how to make a good IDE.
I don`t mind 100$ per year if it means better support then nonexistant Google support. Also if I am making money off the platform I don`t mind paying. And it also stops random people submitting crap apps to the store.
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by onion2k on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:16AM
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And it also stops random people submitting crap apps to the store.
It clearly doesn't work.
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by rbanffy on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:35AM
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It's much better than the Windows app store though.
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by bausshf on Monday June 04, 2018 @07:08AM
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That isn't really a good argument
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by slowmotiony on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:51AM
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Agreed about XCode but Eclipse is also a horrible mess of an IDE, that doesn't make IBM unfriendly to developers.
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by Quarrelsome on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:17AM
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Apple store EULA agreement with developers is the most macabre and lengthy mis-spelling of the words: "fuck you".
Its not a nice agreement.
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by rbanffy on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:37AM
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Apple places users first, developers next, hardware makers (direct competitors) last.
Microsoft places competitors (people who develop operating systems, databases, etc) on an entirely different list.
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by Quarrelsome on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @05:38AM
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Apple shuts down hardware makers in the Apple eco-system aggressively and at least Microsoft usually has the manners to buy out the developers that makes things it likes and wants to integrate into its OS.
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by rbanffy on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:34AM
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Apple is user-friendly first. Developers for Apple technologies come next and all other developers who like the Unix environment of OSX come next. The only reason I use a Mac is because the computer is very well built, fast enough, and runs an OS that's Unix-like enough for my needs.
The fact it's not Linux is the reason I routinely use two other laptops, one with Ubuntu, one with Fedora (and a big Lenovo box that runs about a dozen VMs).
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by josteink on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:10AM
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> How is Apple not developer friendly?
I’m going to put in some good faith and assume this comment was meant sarcastically and not as a pure trolling.
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by bmarkovic on Monday June 04, 2018 @06:53AM
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You haven't dealt with Apple faithful much I presume.
They are, just not to the FOSS crowd that tries to use macOS as if it was GNU/Linux with a pretty face.
Re:What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub
by ssijak on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:09AM
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Well, you pretty much describe my use case for Apple laptops. I resisted for a long time and used Linux desktop for dev work, but when I bought the first MacBook I never looked back. I would describe macOS as Linux desktop that works.