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Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by lucideer on Saturday June 02, 2018 @04:36AM (#17213522)
The implementation really doesn't require any more than that. The poster said "I don't collect anything on my website".

Of course, if you do, like in this forum example, you will have to do something, but that doesn't apply to all the information/blog/brochure sites using unnecessary tracking, etc. They can simply not do so.

Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by zaroth on Saturday June 02, 2018 @07:44AM (#17214106)
Can’t square this comment with the long front page discussion just a couple days ago about whether ref’ing a Google font could violate GDPR.

Since everything your site does basically is defined as “collecting” or “tracking” it’s absurd to claim you can just simply “not do so”.

Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by detaro on Saturday June 02, 2018 @07:47AM (#17214115)
The problem there is that you can't just say "no tracking", you have to be able to argue that there really is no tracking. If you put in content from a third party and have no legal promise by them that they don't track, you can't know if your users are tracked or not.
Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by janoc on Saturday June 02, 2018 @08:21AM (#17214235)
Then just put that in your privacy policy and you are off the hook.

If Google tracks something, whether it is via their fonts, by putting some cookie on your site or whatever, it is their problem (and they actually said so, in that Github post referring to the font issue). They are the ones collecting and processing the data, not you, so they will have to deal with the GDPR compliance.

Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by detaro on Saturday June 02, 2018 @08:24AM (#17214249)
That's their interpretation, and they don't face consequences if it's wrong. Since I've gotten advice to the contrary from lawyers looking into GDPR, I won't trust it until there's clear feedback from regulators or courts about it. Fonts are easy enough to self-host.
Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by zaroth on Saturday June 02, 2018 @10:18AM (#17214678)
> Fonts are easy enough to self-host

But what’s special about fonts? If I can’t reference an asset outside my own domain because the network request could allow the 3rd party to log an IP address, How is that not antithetical to the foundation of the WWW?

Besides the fact that this goes against the last decade of advice on how to speed up your site...

Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by Spivak on Saturday June 02, 2018 @12:08PM (#17215146)
Nothing says you can't link to those resources, but if the page automatically loads them (hotlinked images, scripts, remote fonts, etc.) then there's an issue.

Is it really that unreasonable that loading a page to x.com should only load resources from x.com and 3rd-party resources compatible with X's privacy policy?

Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by zaroth on Saturday June 02, 2018 @01:39PM (#17215519)
> Nothing says you can't link to those resources, but if the page automatically loads them (hotlinked images, scripts, remote fonts, etc.) then there's an issue.

Seems like a contradiction, and exactly my point. Trying to collect privacy policies and compliance statements from any place you might load an <img> or <script> from is extraordinarily burdensome and pointless besides. Totally absurd over-reach IMO.

And what about the 25 hops in between you and them which also collect your IP and the domain being contacted?

Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by janoc on Monday June 04, 2018 @05:02PM (#17232421)
How they "don't face consequences" if it is wrong?! Google (along with Facebook) are very much going to be the first in the line for auditing - and I believe the first complaints against them have been filled on the first day GDPR was in force already. The entire raison d'etre of GDPR is very much Google and Facebook, who were thumbing their noses at EU's privacy regulations so far.

If someone is going to have top-notch legal team on this it is going to be Google. So if Google's legal says that it is alright because they are the data processor/controller as defined by GDPR you can pretty much take them for the word there.

I wonder whether people spreading this sort of panicked disinformation about the fonts and what not have actually read the GDPR text. It is pretty clear about who is considered to be a "data processor" or "controller" - someone who merely uses a resource like fonts is certainly not one if you aren't collecting any information yourself or having someone else do it on your behalf. That Google may be doing it is irrelevant as long as they aren't providing the data to you (which would make you a "data controller").

And if you are neither a data controller nor data processor you aren't concerned by GDPR at all.

It is well explained here: https://www.gdpreu.org/the-regulation/key-concepts/data-cont...

Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by sunir on Saturday June 02, 2018 @12:22PM (#17215210)
Nope. You contracted Google not the end user. You have to go track down all this information and all the providers and then handle the GDPR downstream.
Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by lucideer on Sunday June 03, 2018 @12:04PM (#17220157)
> Can’t square this comment with the long front page discussion just a couple days ago about whether ref’ing a Google font could violate GDPR.

This is a very good point, and to be fair you're absolutely right. The definition of user-tracking extends far beyond Google analytics, and if you're not fully informed about what 3rd-party services you're using on your own website, and the ramifications of those, this could present problems.

When I said "they can simply not do so", that assumes they are aware of what tracking they're doing, which may not be the case. If you're using some WordPress.com blog theme with CDN calls built in, you might have no idea. There may even be an argument for this falling to WordPress.com (in this example) as the provider of the themes.

Realistically, I don't predict CDN calls to turn out to be in violation of GDPR in practice, even though there's a very reasonable argument for them being that in theory.

I kind of half-hope they are though, as a user. I've never been a fan of their use, and use the uBlock and Decentraleyes add-ons personally to avoid them. I wouldn't be devastated if we returned to a norm of locally linked resources (especially with HTTP2 adoption), though that's probably just wishful thinking.

Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by simion314 on Saturday June 02, 2018 @10:35AM (#17214754)
I think there is a lot of FUD around GDPR, for the fonts issue you can use fallback fonts for EU citizens, and if you insist to have those fonts ask for permission. I think the situation will clear out in a few weeks and in the end most people will know what is permuted and what not, is like with software licenses with a bit of research you know how to use GPL, LGPL,MIT etc no need to pay some law fird to research it for you.
Re:Shutting Down Forum (GDPR) by zerostar07 on Saturday June 02, 2018 @07:54AM (#17214134)
Perhaps a look here will help

https://www.reddit.com/r/gdpr/