Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by kbrackbill on Friday June 01, 2018 @01:19PM (#17207647)

You can be arrested for running an exit node, because other Tor users' traffic will appear to be coming from you.

For example: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/05/01/russian-tor-exit-node-... https://www.zdnet.com/article/dan-egerstads-tor-exit-nodes-g... https://www.pcworld.com/article/2452320/tor-exit-node-operat...

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by jerheinze on Friday June 01, 2018 @01:26PM (#17207725)

All of them from people running their exit from home, which has always been warned against.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by Exuma on Friday June 01, 2018 @01:58PM (#17208132)

Where is the recommended place to run one?

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by jerheinze on Friday June 01, 2018 @02:15PM (#17208340)

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISP...

(Also check the new relay guide: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide)

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by mirimir on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:02PM (#17210263)

Also get on the [email protected] mail list.

But the sad truth is that there aren't that many hosting providers that allow Tor relays. Especially exit relays, because of abuse complaints.

Also, as you might expect, Tor relays can use lots of bandwidth. It's more common to get flat-rate bandwidth for 100 Mbps uplinks, and metered bandwidth for 1 Gbps uplinks. Digital Ocean, for example, just switched to metered bandwidth, and that has killed some relays.

However, all this could arguably change, if Tor became mainstream, as part of Firefox.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by benevol on Friday June 01, 2018 @01:36PM (#17207877)

Just use some cheap VPN service in front of your Tor/Firefox browser (which most people should do in any case) and you're good to go.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by jerheinze on Friday June 01, 2018 @02:11PM (#17208284)

That has no relation to the cases above which were of people running Tor exit nodes from their home. If one wants to hide their Tor usage then that's something else and there are pluggable transports that are already built-in the Tor Browser to obfuscate Tor traffic to look like something else--no need for a VPN.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by Yoric on Friday June 01, 2018 @02:06PM (#17208217)

How does this affect exit nodes?

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by benevol on Friday June 01, 2018 @02:26PM (#17208469)

If you're worried that law enforcement will knock on your door because somebody used your exit node for illegal internet activity, a VPN service (that does not log traffic) will give you additional protection by exposing their IP address, not yours.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by tscs37 on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:39PM (#17210638)

A lot of VPN services forbid running exit nodes in their ToS as it tends to trash IP reputation...

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by jabn76 on Friday June 01, 2018 @01:54PM (#17208071)

Looks like a cheap escape from jail card.

Run an exit node and then do something illegal. Then blame it on someone else.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by drexlspivey on Friday June 01, 2018 @02:08PM (#17208248)

Did you miss the part where exit node operators are getting arrested?

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by jabn76 on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:22PM (#17209045)

They sometimes are. Not always. And they walk out free, except for that Jewish guy who lived in Austria (I can’t remember his name but he was the only one to get in real trouble for running an exit node).

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by jerheinze on Friday June 01, 2018 @02:08PM (#17208233)

Why take that trouble when they can do it directly using Tor without running any exit at home? Also for instance Bogatov had an alibi when that happened.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by jabn76 on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:21PM (#17209034)

Most forums ban all Tor exits.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by philipkglass on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:09PM (#17210334)

The forum I run only bans IP addresses caught posting link-spam. Which, admittedly, asymptotically approached 100% of Tor exit nodes before I instituted more rapid ban-expiration. I added faster ban-expiration after hearing from some of my privacy-conscious users that Tor had become unusable for my forum.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by jerheinze on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:30PM (#17209148)

> Most forums ban all Tor exits.

So running an exit at home to coverup for posting on a forum that bans all Tor exits, that makes no sense.

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Re:Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox by mirimir on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:03PM (#17210282)

HN doesn't :)

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