That crosses into personal attack, which please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

So Wikipedia's consensus that I linked to is wrong?

You've unfortunately contributed the most to this flamewar. We don't want those here. Please stop.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Thank you. I didn't take any offense to Humpty Dumpty, I understand his point. I'm more surprised that somebody calling me a "smug pedant" led to me being banned for what seems a simple point, Tesla never said their car was fully self driving, and went to fairly great lengths to explain and notify that it isn't. (sans the video which I agree implies a lot too much).

You weren't banned! We'd have said so if we did that.

Being called a rude name is bad (though I think the commenter edited it out?), but like every user here, you still need to follow the rules regardless of what someone else does.

The core issue is the flamewar thing—by which I mean high-quantity, low-quality controversies—which is the essence of what we're asking people to avoid in comment threads.

Fair enough, I do see this as high quantity, low quality - although I do wish people would understand the point. I didn't realise that equalled a flame war. I just wanted to stand up for myself and an obvious truth. I didn't really think it was a flamewar until there was name slinging and the arguments deviated away from a reasoned rebuttal. The snark level was definitely escalating, so apologies if I contributed to that - my karma was duly punished :)

THat thank you was actually directed at dang, anyway, why am I not surprised that even that comment was downvoted. I am truly amazed by this conversation and fail to understand how those commenting here pass the bar for civil conversation.

It is unfortunate that they were name called “smug pedant”.

Yes, but not relevant to the main point, which is that users need not to proliferate high-quantity-low-quality controversies (a.k.a. flamewars) on this site.

(If we saw a commenter calling another a smug pedant, of course we'd tell them not to. I didn't see it though.)