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Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by nradov on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @12:02AM (#17184967)
Never mind about jewelry and fashion. Cheap synthetic diamonds would open up a host of industrial applications. Bring on "The Diamond Age".
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by Vektorweg on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @01:56AM (#17185409)
Industrial synthetic diamond production is around since at least the 80s and from all we know about De Beers, they are certainly not trying to get the price down.
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by menzoic on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @03:22AM (#17185755)
> The brand, called Lightbox, will offer synthetic diamonds at a fraction of the price it charges for stones pulled out of the earth.
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by tialaramex on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @06:28AM (#17186509)
[ Prices below are arbitrary but illustrate why this is totally irrelevant outside of jewellery ]

De Beers relies on the fact that ordinary people don't understand diamonds aren't very valuable. After all, the diamonds they see sold by De Beers are expensive, so...?

De Beers plucks a $50 diamond from the mines, charges $5000 for it in jewellery and says that's symbollic of True Love, or whatever nonsense people believe.

But the people making diamond cutting saws do not care about True Love, so they are already buying whatever is cheapest, and they won't pay more than $10 for $10 of diamonds. To them that $50 diamond is worth... $50.

De Beers new plan is to make $50 synthetic diamonds, brand them, get across to consumers how these aren't "real" diamonds (hurting synthetic producers), that they're more "I wanna get into your knickers" than "True Love" and charge say $500 for them to emphasise that they're worse than its $5000 mined diamonds.

That makes no difference to the diamond cutting saw people, they still just want diamonds for their purely mechanical properties, and they'll continue to pay $10 for $10 of little diamonds.

De Beers hopes that this drives the synthetic diamond competition out of their market, and allows it to go back to charging $5000 for a $50 diamond in jewellery. The industrial market operates on a rational basis, there's no profit for De Beers there, it's all about the silly people paying $5000 to signal "True Love".

Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by dogma1138 on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @05:53AM (#17186391)
Considering the $800 per carat price tag for their artificial diamonds they want to charge a hefty fee for them much more than it would cost you today to get them form China or India.
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by merpnderp on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @11:31AM (#17188494)
Where do you get these cheap diamonds from China or India?
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by dogma1138 on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @12:14PM (#17188945)
Both industrial and cut can be found through the usual channels (Tao Ali et al.) even eBay for small orders.
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by sandworm101 on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @11:38AM (#17188560)
Since the 80s but only tiny or imperfect stones. The true diamond age is when we can make large structural things with diamonds. Imagine an aircraft wing made from a honeycomb of diamond rather than aluminum.
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by skykooler on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @12:05PM (#17188856)
Diamond is a very poor structural material. It is very hard, but also quite brittle; it breaks easily, is heavy, and is flammable. Additionally, airplane wings specifically need to be flexible to absorb turbulence (like the suspension system on a car), while diamond is very stiff.
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by marcosdumay on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @01:36PM (#17189737)
It's brittle, but very strong. So strong that the brittleness is irrelevant for a huge number of applications, because you simply won't push them far enough. It will usually sustain more load than the same weight of aluminum.

About flammability... Technically it is flammable. If you heat it enough, it will react with oxygen. Steel will melt way before that point, I would be it would burn before that point too.

Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by sandworm101 on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @12:58PM (#17189389)
Diamond is stuff just like any other type of carbon. Solid diamond wings would be silly. But engineered microstructures of diamond could be very flexible where needed, and stiff where not. Diamond ropes, like bundles of carbon nanotubes, could do all sorts of things.
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by ythn on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @11:51AM (#17188708)
Why make an aircraft wing out of diamond when you could make it out of graphene?
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by the_seraphim on Thursday May 31, 2018 @07:49AM (#17195602)
Why not unobtanium
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by Sean1708 on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @04:20AM (#17186005)
> De Beers has produced synthetic diamonds for years through a subsidiary called Element Six, but it has limited their use to industrial applications.

Considering this, I don't think this is going to bring about the Diamond Age unfortunately.

Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by ISL on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @12:30AM (#17185078)
When the Diamond Age arrives, it's going to be amazing. For a sneak peek, look up "diamond-like coatings", already in use in physics experiments and industry.
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by jagger27 on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @11:20AM (#17188366)
One diamond crystal smartphone screen for me, please.
Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by dragontamer on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @12:50PM (#17189285)
The chief problem with smartphone screens these days is not them getting scratched, but with them cracking.

Diamonds, despite being very hard, are also very brittle. They'll likely crack much more easily than Gorilla Glass (another hard material that is hard to scratch).

Re:De Beers admits defeat over man-made diamonds by AstralStorm on Wednesday May 30, 2018 @12:56PM (#17189360)
Did you mean one that shatters on the first hit? Even Gorilla Glass is better than this.