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Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by aninhumer on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @08:56AM (#17178684)
> Twenty-eight regulators appointed by different political groups are a complex system. You will need to gain expertise on them or hire someone with it. All I’m saying is that time and money might be better used elsewhere. Particularly by someone just making side projects.

If you're not collecting data, then all of this is irrelevant. You just say "I'm not collecting data". There's no nuance here.

Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by hartator on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @11:04AM (#17179760)
> If you're not collecting data, then all of this is irrelevant. You just say "I'm not collecting data". There's no nuance here.

How do you prove you are not collecting data?

If your use default configs of Apache, or Nginx, your access.log is probably infringing GDPR. It’s impossible to prove you’re not collecting this without an extensive audit.

Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @09:02AM (#17178728)
> There's no nuance here

This is your interpretation. Many prominent lawyers disagree.

In any case, convincing a regulator that you are not, in fact, collecting data could be harrowing, distracting and expensive. The risk of incurring those costs probably isn’t a smart one to take for a hacker or very early-stage start-up.

Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by nottorp on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @10:13AM (#17179313)
> > There's no nuance here > This is your interpretation. Many prominent lawyers disagree.

I'd like to point out that it's in the interest of a proeminent lawyer to tell you that their services are needed...

Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by aninhumer on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @09:17AM (#17178845)
So in this hypothetical scenario, for some reason the regulator looks at your website, which presumably has no personal information inputs, no tracking analytics etc. and which you have asserted collects no personal information, and they decide that you're still somehow collecting information, and for some reason hounding your low traffic website is the best use of their limited resources.
Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @09:20AM (#17178872)
Taking that risk (of a regulator mis-interpreting something and needing clarifications, again and again, or worse, mis-interpreting something and getting hostile) across the EU’s twenty-eight members is a good one for Facebook. Probably not for a hobbyist.
Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by aninhumer on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @09:25AM (#17178912)
What exactly is the risk to a hobbyist here?

Even if we assume a completely bizarre and pathologically incompetent regulator that somehow ends up zeroing in on some tiny website which exhibits no evidence of violation, the hobbyist might have to... delete their website?

Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @09:27AM (#17178931)
> What exactly is the risk to a hobbyist here?

Have you ever responded to a regulatory enquiry?

Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by tome on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @10:33AM (#17179467)
If you have then perhaps you could share your experience more explicitly. It would be helpful to clarify your point of view.
Re:So Your Startup Received the Nightmare GDPR Letter by hartator on Tuesday May 29, 2018 @11:06AM (#17179786)
So, we’re hoping bureaucray will save ourself from itself by its innefiency?