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Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by llukas on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:03PM (#17157382)
> However I would never trade my freedom for security

So we should stop government from enforcing food safety and accept poisonings as fact of life...

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by freedomben on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:05PM (#17157404)
Your premise is flawed: if it was true that without government, companies would just carelessly or intentionally poison us all (not a good way to gain repeat customers btw) then I would agree with you. But obviously I disagree with your premise.
Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by shabble on Friday May 25, 2018 @06:14PM (#17158473)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle

Consider how many modern food standards regulations came about, and what abuses they were addressing.

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by freedomben on Friday May 25, 2018 @11:01PM (#17159941)
The Jungle is a widely misunderstood book. For one, it's fiction [1] [2] [3].

The milk scandal is interesting tho. I don't disagree that there are people/companies out there that are horrible human beings (or run by horrible human beings), but these are exceptions. There is also a market-based recourse for consumers. Lawsuits and liability is a big deterrent for example. It's also illegal to harm someone (as it should be) so jail time for the offenders is quite possible without having enormous and onerous regulations. And haven't you noticed that it's the giant companies that often push regulation? Because it raises barriers to entry for competitors. Big companies have the resources they need. Using the government to hurt your competitors is one of the oldest traditions in countries with governments big enough and powerful enough to do so.

[1] https://www.history.com/news/7-things-you-may-not-know-about...

[2] https://www.libertariannews.org/2012/11/15/meat-packing-lies...

[3] https://www.zeroaggressionproject.org/uncategorized/upton-si...

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by orf on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:08PM (#17157436)
> If it was true that without government companies would just poison us all (not a good way to gain repeat customers btw)

Counterpoint: Cigarette companies poison you, and they found it's an amazing way to gain repeat customers.

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by freedomben on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:13PM (#17157475)
And they got the crap sued out of them. The lying is the problem IMHO. People know what they're getting now, but millions still choose to smoke. And why shouldn't they be able to?
Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by mirko22 on Friday May 25, 2018 @05:07PM (#17157991)
do they make people smoke?

like do they MAKE you smoke? cos government MAKES me pay taxes Marlboro does not MAKE me smoke...

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by llukas on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:38PM (#17157736)
Companies are careless and malicious despite government and customers actions.

* XIX century wants it's snake oil back * Didn't hear about China and melamine milk scandal? * Would you buy food from Amazon if it was co-mingled in current way? * VW emission scandal

It is easy to be freetard when you do not get diarrhea every so often due to food that was "optimized" (like in XIX century ;)