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Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by CodeWriter23 on Friday May 25, 2018 @02:02PM (#17156332)
Consider this case, startup app in a niche market, only available on US app stores, and a one man dev team that needs to focus on app dev not compliance for some regulation that could never apply to their customers. Yet needs to be sure they don’t end up giving the company to the EU because someone over there signs up on a marketing list.

That’s the startup I’m presently working on. We’ll expand beyond the US borders (and implement GDPR) when we advance to a larger revenue stream. But right now, GDPR compliance is a distraction that interferes with gaining enough traction to help us afford the engineering and legal resources to ensure such compliance.

NOTE: we delete all client data when they cancel already. And we don’t do any creepy marketing.

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by lima on Friday May 25, 2018 @03:51PM (#17157274)
> NOTE: we delete all client data when they cancel already. And we don’t do any creepy marketing.

This does sound like you'll have an easy time complying with GDPR! :)

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by djhworld on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:03PM (#17157378)
> _NOTE: we delete all client data when they cancel already. And we don’t do any creepy marketing_

So what's there to worry about? Sounds like you're well on your way to being compliant

If anything, this allows you to be transparent with your users too.

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by matwood on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:03PM (#17157380)
> NOTE: we delete all client data when they cancel already. And we don’t do any creepy marketing.

Do you inform your users what data you're collecting, why you're collecting it, and get their consent? Are you taking proper precautions with the expanded PII data (encrypting at rest for example)? You've basically covered the requirements.

> Yet needs to be sure they don’t end up giving the company to the EU because someone over there signs up on a marketing list.

What kind of FUD are people reading...if someone voluntarily gives you their email to sign up for a list that's fine. You just need to keep that they consented to receive what they agreed to. What you can't do is use that email for crap they didn't sign up to receive. Obviously normal unbsub rules apply, which in this case says forget that someone ever signed up.

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by CodeWriter23 on Friday May 25, 2018 @05:13PM (#17158040)
€20M / 4% of global revenue isn't fud. Right now, that would kill our bootstrapped operation.
Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by matwood on Friday May 25, 2018 @05:24PM (#17158121)
The FUD is losing your company because someone signs up for your marketing email.
Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by CodeWriter23 on Friday May 25, 2018 @05:39PM (#17158242)
It's a reality. Literally, a 4% tithe on our revenue would literally kill us right now. Funny though you seem to know this isn't the case, having never seen our books.
Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by matwood on Friday May 25, 2018 @05:47PM (#17158288)
I don’t need to see your books to know that someone signing up for your marketing email is not violating the GDPR.
Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by spookthesunset on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:51PM (#17159420)
Um, but now you are storing data "they own". And now you have to comply with how each member country wants you to handle that data. So yeah, you can violate the GDPR...
Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by CodeWriter23 on Saturday May 26, 2018 @04:10AM (#17160807)
Odd then that MailChimp had to make extensive modifications to comply with GDPR. https://blog.mailchimp.com/gdpr-tools-from-mailchimp/
Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by ryanwaggoner on Friday May 25, 2018 @03:41PM (#17157181)
An admirable effort, but all the fans of this law seem to hear is "You're not 100% compliant with the GDPR? You're scummy and shady and don't care about my privacy. I hope you fail immediately because the world is better off without you."

Meanwhile they'll be using VPNs to access your site anyway :)

Re:GDPR for lazy people: Block all European users with Cloud... by CodeWriter23 on Friday May 25, 2018 @05:38PM (#17158233)
This is interesting, an EU Activist thinks they can twist Facebook's and Google's arms into providing free service: (again, I'm not a fan of FB/Google invasive data mining driven advertising)

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44252327