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Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by monkeynotes on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:09PM (#17155085)
> VW haven't even been fined for cheating on their emissions test.

Exec has been fined and sentenced to 7 years[0] VW have been fined $2.8B[1]

[0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/judge-sentences-...

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/judge-approves-larges...

Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by lajhsdfkl on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:15PM (#17155156)
By the US and 2.8B is a fraction of what they deserved to be fined. All VW execs should be in prison for the rest of their lives for what they have done.
Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by rad_gruchalski on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:46PM (#17155467)
Is that a bigger offence than „losing over 1400 migrant children” under an official governmental US programme, „some returned to child traffickers”? https://eu.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/ej-montini/2018...
Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by lajhsdfkl on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:53PM (#17155548)
And how is this related?
Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by rad_gruchalski on Friday May 25, 2018 @01:02PM (#17155652)
I guess it isn’t. There are laws which US considers to be broken by external entities, yet US introduces a comletely inhumane programme worth of DPRK. Where’s the logic.
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Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by rad_gruchalski on Friday May 25, 2018 @02:04PM (#17156343)
Sure. But please remind me, how did we end up with VW case on a GDPR topic in the first place?
Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by hellowrld2 on Friday May 25, 2018 @02:16PM (#17156465)
The original poster believes software should be regulated like cars. I pointed out that the fines for violating gdpr are larger than any fine VW will ever receive from the EU for literally killing people.
Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by paulddraper on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:24PM (#17155254)
> All VW execs should be in prison for the rest of their lives for what they have done.

You must point to the laws violated. E.g. Schmidt made a false statement to the California Air Resources Board under the Clean Air Act.

Trial in the court of opinion and mob lynching is not compatible with the Western tenements of law.

Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by lajhsdfkl on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:35PM (#17155366)
>You must point to the laws violated. E.g. Schmidt made a false statement to the California Air Resources Board under the Clean Air Act.

>Trial in the court of opinion and mob lynching is not compatible with the Western tenements of law.

Stop trying to shift goalposts, my point is that if any company deserved to be fined 4% of global turnover it's VW and they have currently received a total of $0 in fines even though they have probably increased the likelihood of you getting cancer.

Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by monkeynotes on Friday May 25, 2018 @02:00PM (#17156307)
I thought we established they received a non-zero dollar fine.

Their annual profit is about $13BN, they were fined $2.8BN which is about 22%. I think that along with imprisoning an exec that was complicit in the lie is a significant and reasonable deterrent/punishment.

As for VW significantly increasing the likelihood of any given arbitrary citizen getting cancer I'd love to see the numbers on that. Sounds like hyperbole to me[0]

[0] http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/06/14/diesel-fu...