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Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by emodendroket on Friday May 25, 2018 @10:43AM (#17154153)
If you're willing not only to download sideload apps but also to modify your device so you can have root access, then it works. So not really different from Apple.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by 013a on Friday May 25, 2018 @10:52AM (#17154253)
You don't need to get root on an android device to sideload apps, unless the app has specific functionality that requires root. You don't need to break anything about the system or your warranty. Its just a toggle in the settings menu.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by emodendroket on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:54PM (#17155558)
Adblock needs root to work as intended though.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by lern_too_spel on Friday May 25, 2018 @06:41PM (#17158721)
No, you just implement VpnService.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by tekknik on Sunday May 27, 2018 @02:36PM (#17168359)
you don’t need root to sideload in ios either
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by cblades on Friday May 25, 2018 @11:05AM (#17154382)
This is absolutely not the case. I can install any app-store app I'd like, and it can install apps on my phone. I can even download raw apk file and install them myself.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by emodendroket on Friday May 25, 2018 @01:12PM (#17155771)
But we're talking about AdBlock specifically, which needs root privileges.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by lern_too_spel on Friday May 25, 2018 @06:42PM (#17158730)
You don't need root to install a working ad blocker.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by emodendroket on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:41PM (#17159383)
According to the AdBlock Plus page not all features work without root.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by lern_too_spel on Saturday May 26, 2018 @12:20AM (#17160192)
Any features that require root would still require root if installed from the Play Store. That is not relevant to the argument that you can always install things blocked from the Play Store by getting them from other sources.

Moreover, the ad blocking features you get without root are a strict superset of the features that are possible at all on iOS.

Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by emodendroket on Saturday May 26, 2018 @06:46AM (#17161338)
It is relevant, because if it were a free platform you'd be able to do this kind of thing without circumventing the system software.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by lern_too_spel on Saturday May 26, 2018 @11:37AM (#17162586)
> It is relevant, because if it were a free platform you'd be able to do this kind of thing without circumventing the system software.

You can do it without "circumventing the system software." Unlocking the system partition is a supported operation. Then just install a program that lets you run other programs as uid 0. This is not possible for normal apps to do because running as uid 0 means you are no longer subject to the permissions system.

Also, it's irrelevant because the whole point is that Google can't block the user from running whatever apps they like by blocking the app from the Play Store. Requiring root access is orthogonal to Play Store availability.

Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by emodendroket on Sunday May 27, 2018 @07:21PM (#17169703)
I don't need to use third-party software to enable UAC in Windows or sudo in Linux.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by lern_too_spel on Monday May 28, 2018 @12:08AM (#17170532)
Their security model is different. They are multiuser OSes protecting users against each other, while Android started as a single user OS (despite what goes on with uids underneath) protecting users from themselves.

Users running their own apps as uid 0 goes directly against the security model. Nothing stops them from changing or completely discarding the security model on their own devices, but once again, that is completely orthogonal to blocking apps on the Play Store.

Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by emodendroket on Monday May 28, 2018 @06:43PM (#17175288)
It's not completely orthogonal, though. Both things are, in practice, means by which Google can control what kind of apps most users will be exposed to and will install.