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Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by jakubp on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:48AM (#17152638)
Is there Amazon Kindle app for iOS? If there is, isn't it the exact same type of app as Steam Link? Access your content library, buy more content.

If Apple lets Amazon do this (presumably because Amazon is too big to ignore) and won't let Steam do it (because Steam isn't big enough), then this feels more like a cartel than monopoly.

Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by matwood on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:19AM (#17152840)
There is, but the way the Apple app store rules work is that if you are purchasing something for use in the current app, it must go through the IAP API and give Apple their cut. Purchases for things outside the app (like physical items) are fine.

The way this works with Amazon, is in the Amazon store app a user can buy ebooks/audiobooks (along with anything else Amazon sells), and then those books are sent to the Kindle app on iOS. There is no option to buy content directly in the Kindle app.

I also believe the apps cannot directly link to each other as that would circumvent the above.

EDIT

I just checked (it had been awhile) and it looks like you can no longer buy the books within the Amazon store app either, and can only get a sample.

Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by signal11 on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:45AM (#17153076)
If anyone at Apple is reading this, this creates ridiculously bad UX for iOS users.

Search for a book on Google. Click on an Amazon Kindle Search result. The Amazon iOS App launches and tries to find the book, realizes it's a Kindle result, launches Safari to show the result.

So the was trasitioned from Safari -> Amazon -> Safari pretty much because of petty politics from Apple. And all for what? A happy Kindle user isn't going to suddenly switch over to iBooks and you've just made life much worse for him.

The pettiness in the mobile platform wars is unbelievable.

Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by Spivak on Friday May 25, 2018 @10:55AM (#17154282)
This policy isn't to drive users to iBooks. It's to drive Amazon to implement Apple's IAP for a sweet 30% cut of all purchases.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by daemin on Friday May 25, 2018 @09:20AM (#17153389)
So basically all that Valve has to do is to redirect everyone that wants to make a purchase through Safari to the Steam web based store. Then it would be doing all of the selling on the web like a normal store, but content consumption could be done anywhere.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by matwood on Friday May 25, 2018 @11:04AM (#17154370)
Except Valve cannot put the link to their website in their iOS app. Users just have to know to go the Valve web store.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by matwood on Friday May 25, 2018 @09:01AM (#17153208)
You're absolutely correct. It's been awhile since I have bought anything not on Amazon's site. At one point I thought I could buy books in their app, but it's possible that was only samples. And yes, it's comical how bad the user experience is.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by jakubp on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:24AM (#17152885)
Ok. What if Amazon customer buys a kindle ebook on Amazon.com and then reads it on iOS Kindle app? I don't imagine Apple gets a cut in that scenario, do they?

A comment here said that Valve was open to disabling buying in the app and they are still banned. Hmm.

I can see how Apple's position to get some cut is reasonable, but we are talking multiplatform here. Was Valve unwilling to give Apple any cut at all? Was Apple insisting on too big a cut? What's going on?

Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by fma on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:26AM (#17152905)
So that's why I can't buy books on the app... Even though I can find it. Always confused the hell out of me but makes sense now.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by danso on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:38AM (#17153010)
Why is the Amazon Store app not subject to the Apple fee? I’ve always bought stuff via browser and Amazon.com
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by signal11 on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:47AM (#17153106)
The Amazon store app doesn't sell anything which might compete with iBooks or the iTunes store, i.e. - no digital books, music or movies.

In my other comment on this thread I've pointed out how this creates hilariously bad UX for iOS users.

Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by matwood on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:59AM (#17153197)
As I edited above, it looks like Amazon changed this (or maybe it was always like that since I always use the website). According the Apple documentation though, a user should be allowed to bypass IAP for purchases that will be consumed outside the application. See:

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#in-...

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#phy...

Admittedly it has been a few years since I was deeply in iOS development dealing with this.

Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by Haydos585x2 on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:55AM (#17152680)
My understanding of Kindle and Audible on iOS is that Amazon does not _sell_ content on the iOS apps. You can only download/access your content. I always found this annoying with Audible and having to use my laptop to purchase and then download in the app. I haven't had an iPhone in a few years but I think the Steam app was similar.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by pragone on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:05AM (#17152740)
I always assumed this was because Amazon didn't want to have to pay the 30% or whatever cost to Apple for in-app purchases.
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by canuckintime on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:19AM (#17152838)
Precisely. Amazon's Kindle app actually predated Apple's in-app purchasing mechanics. Apple forced Amazon to remove the already in use in-app Kindle store after Apple started charging 30%
Re:Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ... by huseyinkeles on Friday May 25, 2018 @07:54AM (#17152673)
it actually has, but you can not buy new books, only read the ones you've already bought.