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Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by aphextron on Thursday May 24, 2018 @05:42PM (#17148713)
>This is sad but forseeable as Essential sold poorly. It was a nice phone but it can be hard to establish a new brand right now and differentiate oneself.

I don't think it is, everyone is just too afraid of doing something radically different. Essential phone was just another generic midrange Android phablet at a top end flagship price. Until someone completely throws that paradigm away we will be stuck with the bloated nonsense that smartphones have become. I would give ANYTHING for a 5" phone with capacitive touch e-ink display, 3000mAh battery, and a barebones BSD based OS that did nothing but call, text, take pictures, gps, and text-based web browsing.

Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by jiveturkey on Thursday May 24, 2018 @05:51PM (#17148785)
ANYTHING? Would you pay 20x the price of a bloated smartphone? In the developed world, that's what it'd cost due to the small market for such a device. Unfortunately, the price point for such a device further reduces the market ... essentially to zero.

not a rhetorical question. Does ANYTHING include 20x cost factor?

I wonder what they do in the developing world. Previous gen bloat-phones or simple flip phones, or something market-specific, closer to what you're asking for.

Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by filleduchaos on Thursday May 24, 2018 @08:05PM (#17149589)
Why do you think people don't own smartphones in the developing world?
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by vvanders on Thursday May 24, 2018 @05:51PM (#17148786)
It's really a shame the Yota[1] phone never took off. I'd kill for a e-ink on the back, screen on the front phone with software that was built to take advantage of it.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2014/2/28/5450258/yotaphone-e-ink-d...

Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by alpineElephant on Thursday May 24, 2018 @07:47PM (#17149499)
> I would give ANYTHING for a 5" phone with capacitive touch e-ink display, 3000mAh battery, and a barebones BSD based OS that did nothing but call, text, take pictures, gps, and text-based web browsing

Isn't that pretty much exactly what the light phone2 is? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/light-phone-2-design#/

Not sure if it'll have browsing, but it's got everything else, including an e-ink display, which is probably the hardest feature to comeby in a phone

Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by janekm on Thursday May 24, 2018 @05:59PM (#17148853)
If you'd give around $300000 it can be done ;) Battery life could be an issue though. Also taking pictures with an e-ink screen won't be a very satisfying experience. Unfortunately I'm not convinced there's much more than a few hundred people worldwide who would pay good money for a "phone" that can't run any popular apps.
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by michaelbuckbee on Thursday May 24, 2018 @06:07PM (#17148909)
And each of those hundred people probably has _one_ additional app that they find essential, that no one else does. It's a brutal market.
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by striking on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:12PM (#17150123)
Consider building your own. There's nothing stopping you.

I've heard whispers of mini PCIe 3G cards that have "unused" pins that actually offer up a USB device. That's how the USB-to-miniPCIe adapters work.

There are also ARM processors that can operate as USB hosts and run Linux or a BSD.

LiPo batteries are cheap and fun to use. The charging circuits are less fun, but there are probably ways to handle it without too much trouble.

And finally, our good friends at AliExpress or eBay have plenty of SPI-driven e-ink displays and probably a few usable digitizers, although you'll have to combine them yourself.

If you ever actually go through with building this, let me know. I looked into it once but lacked the time to ever finish.

Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by ForHackernews on Thursday May 24, 2018 @05:59PM (#17148855)
Not quite what you're looking for, but at least somebody trying something different: https://www.unihertz.com/jelly.html
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by FractalLP on Thursday May 24, 2018 @05:48PM (#17148767)
Glad to know others exist that just want a basic device that will last a week without charging without massive bloat and apps I don't care about.
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by icebraining on Thursday May 24, 2018 @06:40PM (#17149136)
You can get one for <$30, they're called featurephones. The rebooted Nokia 3310 claims one month of (stand by) battery life.
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by FractalLP on Thursday May 24, 2018 @11:18PM (#17150370)
Aggh, sorry...I meant to be agreeing more with the parent comment I replied to. I want all that plus an e-ink screen running freeBSD and some very basic browsing. I don't think old Nokia dumb phones had that.
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by s73v3r_ on Thursday May 24, 2018 @09:33PM (#17149952)
Feature Phones are still a thing. You can still get such a thing.

https://www.verizonwireless.com/basic-phones/

There's a whole bunch of phones that do basically what you're looking for.

Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by IncRnd on Thursday May 24, 2018 @07:59PM (#17149564)
Just buy a dumb phone. It does exactly what you described.
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by aembleton on Friday May 25, 2018 @08:24AM (#17152883)
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by jrs95 on Thursday May 24, 2018 @06:09PM (#17148927)
The market for this is tiny, that's why it doesn't exist.
Re:Andy Rubin Puts Essential Up for Sale, Cancels Next Phone by FractalLP on Thursday May 24, 2018 @11:28PM (#17150398)
Agreed, I don't think anyone really wondered why it doesn't exist...kind of one of those expressions that don't translate well to message boards