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Re:Amazon device recorded private conversation, sent it out ... by tree_of_item on Thursday May 24, 2018 @02:07PM (#17146662)
> Intent is a very important factor when answering the question "should the lights be one," I don't think you'll be able to predict that. For instance: if movement is detected in the bedroom at 2AM, should the lights come on? The answer is: a very strong maybe.

You would be collecting data from many sources in order to predict intent. This is why you need a centralized server.

Re:Amazon device recorded private conversation, sent it out ... by kinsomo on Thursday May 24, 2018 @02:33PM (#17146899)
> You would be collecting data from many sources in order to predict intent. This is why you need a centralized server.

Please explain, exactly, what other sources you would collect data from and how the central server would process it to determine if I want the lights on in the middle of the night.

IMHO, determining intent in this scenario is impossible without...

1. a mind-reading sensor, or...

2. an explicit user signal, such as a button-press or command.

The only realistic option is a user signal, and most of those options obviate a lot of these prediction ideas.

I think there's a lot less practical value to having a "central server" controlling everything than you seem to assume.

Re:Amazon device recorded private conversation, sent it out ... by darpa_escapee on Thursday May 24, 2018 @03:29PM (#17147420)
> Please explain how, exactly, what other sources you would collect data from and how the central server would process it to determine if I want the lights on.

Machine learning navel-gazing is the new "throw a start-up at it", so I'm guessing the answer to this is going to be "if we have enough data..."

Re:Amazon device recorded private conversation, sent it out ... by pessimizer on Thursday May 24, 2018 @03:04PM (#17147210)
> Please explain how, exactly, what other sources you would collect data from and how the central server would process it to determine if I want the lights on.

The more data, the more smarter. In fact, the only difference between a thermostat and the human mind is the number of datas. This is because the Law of Averages predicts that half of all datas will be relevant.

Re:Amazon device recorded private conversation, sent it out ... by econochoice on Thursday May 24, 2018 @04:04PM (#17147784)
> The more data, the more smarter.

There are several important caveats to this statement.

> In fact, the only difference between a thermostat and the human mind is the number of datas.

This is an oversimplification that borders on dogma.

> This is because the Law of Averages predicts that half of all datas will be relevant.

An interesting interpretation and application.

Re:Amazon device recorded private conversation, sent it out ... by lmitchell on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:53AM (#17150716)
I really really hope this was a joke, because it was incredibly funny if so and terrifying if not.