Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t...
by smogcutter on Thursday May 24, 2018 @04:09PM
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At 40 mph 1.3 seconds is 76 feet, right around the threshold of stopping distance if the computer slammed on the brakes at that moment. At the very least, it's the difference between an ER visit and a fatality. Far too short a time for a human to react to a warning, though.
Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t...
by romwell on Thursday May 24, 2018 @09:44PM
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> Far too short a time for a human to react to a warning, though.
Simply swerving left would have avoided the accident. Stopping is not the only thing the human driver could have done!
Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t...
by smogcutter on Friday May 25, 2018 @02:31PM
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Sure. What I mean is that if they expect to correct this with some kind of "oh shit" alarm for the driver, 1.3 seconds isn't enough time to do anything helpful.
The whole thing is nuts. Imagine a human driver seeing the same thing the computer did, and responding the same way: they'd be in handcuffs.
Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t...
by davrosthedalek on Thursday May 24, 2018 @03:44PM
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Average reaction time for humans for a visual alarm is 1/4 second. So more than a second left. And that's a second at the current speed. At 60 mph (was that the speed?), that's about 25 meters. With 1 g breaking for 1 s, the car's speed could have been reduced to 27 mph, and the person on the street would have had almost 0.4s more time to jump away, alerted by the sound of the car breaking.
Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t...
by bluGill on Thursday May 24, 2018 @04:25PM
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Reaction time is only part of the picture. First you recognize the issue. Then you have to move your body. In court they generally use 1.5 seconds for all of this. Your best case is .7 seconds, but this situation was clearly not the best case - even if the human had been paying attention it would be much worse.
http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html has a good discussion (starting with why 1.5 seconds is not the answer)
Of course cars cannot change speed instantly anyway - it is likely that even if the button was hit in time the accident was still unavoidable at 1.3 seconds. The car should have been slowing down hard long before it knew what the danger was. (I haven't read the report - it may or may not have been possible for the computer to avoid the accident)