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Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 24, 2018 @11:48AM (#17145149)
Yikes. I would not allow a business to continue to exist whose argument is “at least we’re only partially wreckless”.

See how that holds up in civil court in front of a jury, or any legislative body Uber might need to convince to allow their operation in a jurisdiction in the future.

“Just think of how many more people we would’ve killed if we didn’t care at all!”

Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by malandrew on Thursday May 24, 2018 @12:04PM (#17145311)
"at least we’re only partially wreckless" has been Tesla's standard operating procedure for a while now. I'm guessing you think Tesla shouldn't exist either.
Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by jjoonathan on Thursday May 24, 2018 @12:15PM (#17145445)
Oh, they'll get crucified for it, I'm sure -- because the public doesn't understand that integration is never trivial, and that "obvious" integrations aren't always good ideas.

I had thought an audience of developers would "get it," since we deal with fallout from ill-conceived integrations every day, although admittedly in a far less spectacular form than control system engineers.

Unfortunately, the uber hate train has already left the station and there's no slowing it down until the investigation finds (or doesn't) actual evidence of negligence rather than clickbait guesswork by armchair engineers. Too bad.

Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by toomuchtodo on Thursday May 24, 2018 @12:39PM (#17145746)
> I had thought an audience of developers would "get it," since we deal with fallout from ill-conceived integrations every day, although admittedly in a far less spectacular form than control system engineers.

You do a disservice to the audience by assuming it would be understanding of grossly negligent behavior.

Failures happen, that is to be expected. If you're building self-driving vehicles, you're supposed to be engineering for those failures. Disabling two life safety systems (Volvo's AEB and Uber's own AEB) and relying on a single inattentive human driver? I don't understand how that's understandable or justifiable in any scenario besides a carefully controlled test track.