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Re:A 20-year Follow-Up to an Early Childhood Stimulation Pro... by lifeisstillgood on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @07:04PM (#17130194)
Am I missing something in the wide gap between those figures - Children who got intervention X stayed in school for ~7 months longer and were also three times more likely to start college

The 5% more and the 300% more just seem wildly out of kilter

(It kind of makes sense - if all your peers stop school at 16 and you stay for 7 months or more, suddenly getting to college is a much easier step.) I think i am just surprised by how surprised i am

Re:A 20-year Follow-Up to an Early Childhood Stimulation Pro... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @07:43PM (#17130413)
As I mention below, the very large 200% increase in college attendance is more likely to suggest that this demographic group has extremely low college attendance rates than that the intervention has an extremely high impact.

If you do your intervention and 2 out of 127 children enroll in a college when you would have expected 0.7, you've tripled the expected rate, but that was easy to do by chance.

In this case, the sample size was presumably half that, around 64.

Re:A 20-year Follow-Up to an Early Childhood Stimulation Pro... by dalbasal on Wednesday May 23, 2018 @08:27AM (#17133537)
They're not comparable on the same scale.

Say... Kids get 10.5 years schooling on average in neighborhood A. 12 years in neighborhood B. That is a 1.5 years or 15% difference. In a 12 grade system, this is the best possible result implying a 100% completion rate.

Neighborhood A sends 10% of all kids to college. Neighborhood B sends 50% of all kids to college. That's a 500% difference.

This example seems pretty plausible. A neighborhood where an average kid makes it halfway through 10th grade probably sends a lot fewer kids to college than a neighborhood with a 100% completion rate for grade 12.

Re:A 20-year Follow-Up to an Early Childhood Stimulation Pro... by lostcolony on Wednesday May 23, 2018 @08:29AM (#17133551)
This. Especially since if Jamaica is anything like the US, dropping out prior to age 16 is illegal.
Re:A 20-year Follow-Up to an Early Childhood Stimulation Pro... by losvedir on Wednesday May 23, 2018 @07:11AM (#17133109)
Well the 5% is averaged over the whole group while the 300% is from a base rate of those who go to college.

I haven't seen the data, so I don't know if this is the case, but one explanation is that this intervention works really well for some people, and not at all for others. Also, I think "3x more likely" means 200% more people.

So the numbers could be something like: 100 participants, 5 would have gone to college. The social stimulation really benefited 10 kids. They, in turn, did years more schooling and went to college. 5% -> 15% college rate is 3x more likely, but the 10 kids' large increase in attendance was averaged out over the group of 100, so the overall increase was just 5%.

Not saying this is the case, just showing a way those numbers could be plausible.

Re:A 20-year Follow-Up to an Early Childhood Stimulation Pro... by loblollyboy on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @09:40PM (#17130924)
It’s probably not just that they attended a little more, but that they were more on the ball when they were attending. I didn’t read the article tho
Re:A 20-year Follow-Up to an Early Childhood Stimulation Pro... by j45 on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @10:29PM (#17131089)
A better quality metric might be emerging if so, instead of the usual # of butts in a seat, or hours per student.
Re:A 20-year Follow-Up to an Early Childhood Stimulation Pro... by pkAbstract on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @10:46PM (#17131149)
GPA