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Re:College May Not Be Worth It Anymore by gaius on Thursday May 17, 2018 @01:00PM (#17093107)
Same here, they even went so far as to say it didn’t even matter what you studied!

That is why you should never take career advice from someone who ended up as a careers adviser....

Re:College May Not Be Worth It Anymore by SilasX on Thursday May 17, 2018 @01:22PM (#17093322)
Not sure if joking, but I agree, in a general sense. For skills above a certain level/specialization, I don't like the idea of a "full time, career teacher". In order to really ground the lessons/advice they're giving, they need to be a practicioner[1] too -- otherwise, your questions will get answered with "... that's what the book says" or some rationalization of some idiosyncratic ritual they favor. That doesn't impart a real understanding.

For a HS counselor, that would mean they also work as a career counselor outside to tell people whether or what jobs to change to, or to stay at their current one.

I wouldn't apply that to core education, as there are no e.g. professional adders, but you get the the picture.

I could go on, but that's a topic for another day, I guess.

[1] a retired or former practicioner would suffice here too

Re:College May Not Be Worth It Anymore by gaius on Thursday May 17, 2018 @04:14PM (#17095195)
I don't like the idea of a "full time, career teacher".

This one - I still remember her name but I won't doxx her obv - I happen to know had gone from school to university to teacher training to my school. She had never been outside the education system in her entire life. But her job was to advise 16- and 18-year olds on how to set themselves up for career success...

(I think she also taught Home Ec or some similar fluffy subject)

Re:College May Not Be Worth It Anymore by s73v3r_ on Thursday May 17, 2018 @01:58PM (#17093706)
But, here's the thing: They weren't wrong. The sheer number of people who have had their resumes ignored simply because they don't have a degree of some sort attests to that.
Re:College May Not Be Worth It Anymore by BlackDeath3 on Thursday May 17, 2018 @02:38PM (#17094128)
>> ...they even went so far as to say it didn’t even matter what you studied!...

> ...They weren't wrong. The sheer number of people who have had their resumes ignored simply because they don't have a degree of some sort attests to that.

This doesn't imply that having any degree would have gotten their resumes looked at, or secured them an interview.

Re:College May Not Be Worth It Anymore by jrumbut on Thursday May 17, 2018 @03:48PM (#17094860)
Looking over other people's shoulders while they job search I've seen plenty of openings that require a bachelor's but don't require it be in any particular field.

These may or may not be the best jobs but it's not an uncommon requirement and they are typically better in some dimension than openings that require a HS diploma only (at least within the same organization).

Re:College May Not Be Worth It Anymore by s73v3r_ on Thursday May 17, 2018 @03:04PM (#17094453)
The amount of people working as programmers with degrees in non computer science related fields does kind of imply that, though.
Re:College May Not Be Worth It Anymore by gaius on Thursday May 17, 2018 @04:12PM (#17095174)
The amount of people working as programmers with degrees in non computer science related fields does kind of imply that, though

My first degree is in Mech Eng, I think there are very few people in that field without a relevant degree. Computing is the exception, not the rule!