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Re:Twitter delays shutdown of legacy APIs as it launches a r... by robin_reala on Thursday May 17, 2018 @06:55AM (#17090240)
What I don’t understand is why Twitter don’t maintain the existing streaming chronological ad-free API and allow third party clients to connect to it, but to charge users a subscription to enable it for their account. This, to me, is so obvious that I must be missing something. Potentially it’s along the lines of Facebook’s quoted $35/month income per US user, but I can’t be alone in being tempted to abandon the platform if forced to an ad-ridden 1st-party-client (or no client on desktop) with an algorithmic feed.
Re:Twitter delays shutdown of legacy APIs as it launches a r... by jeffbax on Thursday May 17, 2018 @07:10AM (#17090307)
With the insane pricing plans Twitter just announced for third parties, it's approaching $15/month per user to maintain current feature parity and have things like push notifications and stats info.

Feels like they are shooting themselves in the foot considering how many of their longest influential users are on Tweetbot and Twitteriffic, not to mention ingrateful considering how important Twitteriffic in particular was to many of the Twitter norms early on.

Also lame considering what hot garbage the native official desktop app is in comparison, all of this just makes me truly likely to seek alternatives if third party apps must go away, maybe micro.blog

Re:Twitter delays shutdown of legacy APIs as it launches a r... by SyneRyder on Thursday May 17, 2018 @07:14AM (#17090332)
I wonder if it is the pricing issue. The Techcrunch article has a screenshot of Twitter's paid pricing, and they show "25 subscriptions" as "$339/month"... which is $13.56 USD/month per subscription.

If Twitter is actually charging $13.56/mth per account, I guess that explains why they never did a consumer subscription. I've always wanted to pay for Twitter, but that's more than Netflix, more than Dropbox, more than Spotify.

Unless I have drastically misread that image, which is entirely possible. I'm not clear on what is included in one "subscription".

Re:Twitter delays shutdown of legacy APIs as it launches a r... by esrauch on Thursday May 17, 2018 @04:45PM (#17095537)
Presumably a publicly released app isn't going for a 25 subscriptions at $14/account deal, they must be targeting some special enterprise/social marketing space. It isn't obvious that a random consumer would expect to pay the same.
Re:Twitter delays shutdown of legacy APIs as it launches a r... by SyneRyder on Friday May 18, 2018 @01:00AM (#17098831)
The makers of Twitterrific (desktop Mac app) have confirmed the pricing per 3rd-party user and that they likely can't continue:

"It’s looking like it won’t be financially possible for us to afford the new account activity API from twitter."

"Many of you have done the math and seen it would be about $12/user/month for notifications - but don’t forget that in order to do a subscription we’d have to cover Apple’s 30% overhead and make enough for us to pay for food and shelter. So, uh… yeah."

"This isn’t a “wow that’s kind of expensive” situation. This is “deathblow expensive” situation."

[1] https://twitter.com/BigZaphod/status/996785022886608896

[2] https://twitter.com/BigZaphod/status/996831340740972549

Re:Twitter delays shutdown of legacy APIs as it launches a r... by esrauch on Sunday May 27, 2018 @08:48AM (#17166690)
Yeah, I just meant that the move seems to pretty clearly be "no more API access for consumer apps, only for internal enterprise type use cases".