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Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by lechiffre10 on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:14PM (#17075595)
This doesn't inspire too much confidence, Tesla at one point asked for volunteers to ramp up Model 3 production and now a hackathon to solve a bottleneck. We get they burn cash like there's no tomorrow ( pun?) but this reeks of desperation. He should at least pay the winners.
Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by hahamrfunnyguy on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:19PM (#17075646)
Seems like a better way to solve the problem than doing nothing, or continuing on business as usual.
Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by lechiffre10 on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:24PM (#17075706)
If rewarded accordingly I agree. But the fact he could get a HUGE payout if certain milestones are met and has the nerve to not only ask for volunteers but now for programmers to fix his issues for free is ridiculous. Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/21/elon-musk-could-earn-55-bill...
Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by mikeash on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:35PM (#17075826)
How is this different from any other situation where an employee contributes to the company and the CEO benefits from their results?

The pay disparity between workers and executives is important and worth discussing, but what makes this particular example of it worth pointing out?

Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by azemetre on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:55PM (#17076073)
Well one, the employee is getting paid to do the duties their job asks for. They aren't working for free.

Tesla/Musk appears to be following the model of massive greedy billion dollar corporation that would rather take free work than appropriately compensate workers/consultants.

There is a massive difference between BEING PAID and NOT BEING PAID when asked to do work. Seeing how Musk overworks and underpays his workers I'm not surprised by this move.

Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by mikeash on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @02:14PM (#17076250)
Where do you get that these people aren’t being paid?
Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by azemetre on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @03:19PM (#17076896)
From the User you were replying to: lechiffre10

Also if only the winners are being paid, what about everyone else? They've invested just as much time and their contributions were still valued by Tesla. This isn't Glengarry Glen Ross, these are real humans.

Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by mikeash on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @03:47PM (#17077202)
Well where did they get it from?

As far as I can tell, this “hackathon” is being done by employees on company time, so I’m extremely confused.

Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by legohead on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:33PM (#17075795)
Is the hackathon not during work hours?
Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by bdcravens on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:25PM (#17075719)
When you've taken $20B in funding that's a false dichotomy.
Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by mohaine on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:59PM (#17076106)
The is no reason to believe that the volunteers and hackathon are open to anybody but paid employees/contractors.

The volunteers email went out in an internal employee list.

Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by astrodust on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @03:11PM (#17076807)
"Work free overtime! Win prizes! First prize is a $50 gift certificate at Chili's. Second prize is a steak knife. Third prize is you're fired."
Re:Tesla is holding a hackathon to fix two robot bottlenecks... by ranit on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @02:45PM (#17076545)
From the article:

> A hackathon is a sprint event where programmers are invited to compete in fixing a problem or creating a product in a short period of time with prize money for the highest performing participants.