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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by bln_wgc on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @12:45PM (#17075316)
Lyft for example? Or Airbnb? They have forced arbitration clauses as well.

We'll see if they match Uber's commitment here.

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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by gnicholas on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @02:59PM (#17076676)
Lyft apparently has matched: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2018/05/15/uber-end...
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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by adamsea on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:21PM (#17075669)
Commitment is yet to be seen .... this is an attempt at change though, for sure.
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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by ProAm on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @12:53PM (#17075379)
I think its more important for Uber because they have a history of their drivers committing rape. I don't know if there are cases of that for Lyft or Airbnb but I have not heard about it from those companies.
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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by googlemike on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @12:57PM (#17075424)
What does the ride hailing service and infrastructure (platform?) have to do with the drivers beyond screening them to the best of their ability? It's like saying Mcdonalds, the post office, or any large employer should be held accountable for the crimes of their employees.

I googled the most trivial of searches and got dozens of responses, here's a few. In any of these cases, is it really fair to say any of these were Uber's fault? Or Lyft's? I do not think so. Do you?

https://nypost.com/2018/03/05/woman-raped-twice-trying-to-ta...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/davie/fl-sb-davie-...

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/rape-victim-suing-l...

https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/boone-county/...

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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by ProAm on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:02PM (#17075479)
Whether it's their fault or not, I believe a person should have a right to sue and lose, especially in cases of rape. You are right that Uber/Lyft/etc will likely be found not at fault, but then there is the case where Uber stole a customers medicals records in one of these rape instances [1] in which a lawsuit is more than fair for the victim.

[1] https://www.recode.net/2017/6/7/15754316/uber-executive-indi...

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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by googlemike on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:08PM (#17075539)
Agreed. My point was merely that this is a great move from the consumer perspective, one that I doubt other companies will follow.
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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by ProAm on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:19PM (#17075648)
Yeah it is a great move. I think the other companies will follow suit once they have an incident that causes the same level of bad PR that Uber has experienced. Once it starts to cut into their profits they will jump on board, sadly it always comes down to money.
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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by malandrew on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @04:16PM (#17086072)
The other thing you can do is reward the companies that lead on these issues with your business so you encourage others to do the same.

It's carrots and sticks. If a company doesn't do what you want, try sticks (punish them for not doing what you want) and carrots (reward those that do so others see that they should do the same).

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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by cortesoft on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @05:50PM (#17078182)
I think it depends on what happpens. If someone with no prior record commits a crime, it shouldn’t be Uber’s fault... if they get complaints about a guy, but let him keep driving, that would be more of an issue.

Basically, was there something they should have done differently that amounts to negligence.

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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by lhorie on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:40PM (#17075894)
What's more, ride hailing drivers aren't even employees to begin with in most jurisdictions, and in many cases, the drivers working with one ride hailing company actually also work with the other(s).
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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by bln_wgc on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @12:55PM (#17075398)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uber-lyft-drivers-sexual-assaul...

Incidence rate is similar on both platforms.

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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by malandrew on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @04:11PM (#17086022)
It happens with all these companies, you just don't hear about it because they aren't companies that those that work in the mainstream media love to hate. Neither of those two companies generate nearly as many pageviews as Uber because Uber touches an order of magnitude more lives.
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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by zethraeus on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @01:24PM (#17075699)
Why do you think it could be substantively different between Uber and Lyft? It seems incredibly unlikely to me. I see basically no cultural difference between these platforms.
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Re:Uber Eliminates Forced Arbitration for Sexual Misconduct ... by austenallred on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @12:54PM (#17075388)
Because of forced arbitration?
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