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Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by _emacsomancer_ on Friday May 11, 2018 @10:58PM (#17052264)
from the article:

> One Wall Street analyst believes Amazon is still in the "early stages" in many of its key markets.

With as many things as Amazon has its fingers into, it seems to me to have the potential to end up more profitably than Apple.

Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by gscott on Friday May 11, 2018 @11:34PM (#17052348)
The solution would be for Apple to invest the profit into Amazon stock. Then take it over.
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by kgwgk on Saturday May 12, 2018 @05:13AM (#17053175)
The solution to what problem?
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by gscott on Saturday May 12, 2018 @07:07PM (#17056486)
The solution to Apple one day not having a hit product that drives revenue.
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by prewett on Saturday May 12, 2018 @12:38AM (#17052503)
Amazon's retail business probably has a pretty low margin, and I'm not sure it can make it up in volume. Maybe AWS + Kindle make up for it, but I have my doubts. If you believe in efficient markets (which I, personally, think is bunk), then AMZN's 777B market cap to APPL's 926B means the Market doesn't think so, either. Apple has both large volume and high margins, which is a killer combination. On the other hand, I doubt Apple is going to grow much, whereas Amazon probably has some growth left.
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by adventured on Saturday May 12, 2018 @03:41AM (#17052958)
The math on their business is pretty straightforward.

Extrapolate Amazon's retail business out to the size of Walmart, $500 billion. Assume extreme retail margins: 5% net income margins. $25 billion in profit, at max size, under the best case scenario Amazon will ever see. More likely, Amazon will never reach the retail size of Walmart today (inflation adjusted).

A more likely number: maybe $12 to $15 billion in retail profit. Slap an optimistic valuation for the retail sector onto that: $240 to $300 billion valuation. Comparable to Walmart.

Next, AWS at $60 to $80 billion in eventual sales, with 20%-25% margins, spitting off perhaps $15b-$20b in operating income. That business might end up worth $300b to $500b.

All of Amazon's best case scenario growth for the next ten years, is already priced into the stock. That's what you would typically expect with a ~250 PE though.

Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by _emacsomancer_ on Saturday May 12, 2018 @12:58AM (#17052555)
Also, a lot of profitability is in Apple's high margins. If that ceases to be a sustainable model....
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by mrep on Saturday May 12, 2018 @03:27AM (#17052927)
Which is why Apples P/E is so low compared to compared to other tech stocks which I think is totally reasonable. I just got a Pixel 2 and like it more than my old Iphone 6S. With Apples profits so heavily tied to continual sales of 1 main hardware product line, their profit can tank in just a few years and thus I consider very risky.
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by gremlinsinc on Saturday May 12, 2018 @01:48AM (#17052647)
amazon could one day rule all verticals, but if they decide to spend every penny growing even bigger, they'll still make less on paper than Apple, Amazon is in hyper growth mode all the time in a million different directions. Apple doesn't take as many risks and doesn't have their hands in as many things. Similar things could be said of Google/Alphabet as well, they seem to be doing business like Amazon.
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by innagadadavida on Friday May 11, 2018 @11:39PM (#17052365)
So does Walmart, it just has a bit of image and marketing issues, otherwise Walmart has a lot more potential than Amazon.
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by nhumrich on Friday May 11, 2018 @11:50PM (#17052393)
Walmart doesn't have it's fingers in nearly as many things.

Cloud computing, autonomous vehicles, drones, ai, smart home tech, developer community, etc. Are all things Amazon has a leg in that Walmart has literally nothing.

Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by toasterlovin on Saturday May 12, 2018 @12:29AM (#17052474)
I'm not so confident that Amazon will continue to have fingers in so many things in the future. I think Amazon has figured out a pretty good formula for entering product categories that are relatively new, but we'll see if they can compete long term as more focused competitors arise. That being said, their utter dominance of retail and it's vertically related industries will probably continue for a long time. But I'm pretty skeptical of AI, smart home tech, autonomous vehicles, drones etc.
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by shaklee3 on Saturday May 12, 2018 @12:34AM (#17052487)
They failed at many things as well. Fire phone, fire tablet, etc.
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by khc on Saturday May 12, 2018 @03:01AM (#17052865)
Is fire tablet a fail?
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by innagadadavida on Saturday May 12, 2018 @02:06AM (#17052706)
Microsoft will leverage its business relations to take high paying AWS customers and leave AWS to fight Google for small startups' business. Most of the drones are made in China, Amazon does nothing special with it. Also, with the increase in Prime fees, there will be many customers that will leave.

Amazon has had an amazing stock run-up in the last 2-3 years, but stock is 6-7X overpriced compared too any of their peers.

Also, Bezos is too smart for his own good, and has no succession plan.

Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by joejerryronnie on Saturday May 12, 2018 @01:04AM (#17052568)
Walmart is into quite a bit more than you realize.
Re:Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has ge... by QML on Saturday May 12, 2018 @02:39AM (#17052807)
Investors see a lot more road in Amazon’s future compared to Walmart’s — it’s just the illusion of growth that drives stock prices.