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Re:Developers Should Abandon Agile by philwelch on Thursday May 10, 2018 @05:20PM (#17043071)
I quipped in a retro once that uppercase-Agile is agile the same way the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a Democratic People's Republic. This was shortly after a teammate of mine described the three-to-four-hour biweekly sprint planning meetings he was subjected to on a previous team.

Here's a tip: calculate the cost of every meeting by taking your salary (or an estimate of the average salary in the room), dividing by 52 and then again by 40, doubling it, and multiplying by the number of people and then again by the number of hours in the meeting. Alternatively, nevermind the salary calculations: subjecting 13 people to a 3 hour meeting wastes roughly a full-time human-week of productivity.

Re:Developers Should Abandon Agile by some_account on Thursday May 10, 2018 @05:28PM (#17043120)
It doesn't matter to Enterprise that money is being lost. It's millions every day being wasted and they are still there, going strong. They are no longer competing because income is automatic and guaranteed unless they do something catastrophic.
Re:Developers Should Abandon Agile by tcbawo on Friday May 11, 2018 @08:17AM (#17046682)
Also, without paid overtime, workers are often expected to make up productivity outside of the meetings.
Re:Developers Should Abandon Agile by blablabla123 on Friday May 11, 2018 @04:21PM (#17050535)
Yeah but imagine such a large group having an unproductive week because people have to wait for each other or because of miscommunication think they have to wait. Or spend time on a non-sensical task because everybody thought they everybody knows what they are up to.

After all even a 3 hours meeting is less than 10% of the work week...

Re:Developers Should Abandon Agile by Graham24 on Friday May 11, 2018 @09:28AM (#17047130)
I would like to see a timer on the desk during meetings, not showing the elapsed time, but the total wage bill the meeting is costing. I think that should concentrate minds a little
Re:Developers Should Abandon Agile by arbie on Friday May 11, 2018 @01:58PM (#17049465)
We once calculated that the cost of tinkering with the projector + web conf cost about $4k for the 15 minutes wasted across the population of the room.